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Re: The giant
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2016, 03:13:20 am »
Good point TGS, This is a good way of going the correct way...

i´m very good with memory but in the university i learned how is important to take notes draw graphs and analyse data with certanty and whats the importance of all this.. so i use them all as a big tool to understand the things...

i tried for years what you describe as you know is the most basic way to look at it... but if you go and i really wish you can do that... talk to a physics teacher high level ... they will tell you well

how many electrons will you be able to eject?

as you eject you create a current! what next? how you keep it?

you cannot just keep pulling electrons out of water ...  some things that will make you think alot

than they would ask you do you know that not only the oxygen holds this electrons? So would be easier for you to take out electrons out of water than simply make electrolysis? sort of things

i mean i talked many many many nights with many teachers and i´m seriously about it i was a pain in the ass... hahah they all gave me attention! this was the good part and in turn i took the most i could learn out of it..

so take their words to me if you dont like mine..  this to start with is impossible... hahah they always start like this

than they will if nice enough explain how the moelcules are not free to move and oscilate and ionize as we imagine when we simply read about it..

i know you did a great deal of work and i dont deny your source of learning as for me any source is a source so i compliment you for your learning process..

Here i should ask what fact suport your thesis that taking out electrons out of water indeed generate gas?  i ask this to you because is easy to get a flyback out of a tv and apply 50 to to 60kv and so on to a electrode inside water and you wont see a fucking bubble out of it..

so whats your facts suporting your thesis other than (lightning storm milions of volts) ?


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« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2016, 03:15:22 am »
Look again the newzealand video and look how meyer says that the oxygen become negative and now cancel the covalent force... he does not say it become positive....

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if your thankful for this just say thanks to meyer


For me knowledge is not something we should desire to ourselves and i mean it.

Not because you know how do something you should feel you have the right of it over anyone...

this is the reason so many people died



(ps TGS of course i read about the photosintesis..amonia and anything else that poped on web) just didnt saw anything about it that took my atention... what took yours?

What i refered at the other forum is that connecting the vics together in series for me dont make sense... surely it does makes to you so my bad talking about as i told you i thought gunther was with you..

the main reason why they wont be good in series is because of the required insulation to achieve the voltages you are talking about... those bushings in the stan evidence would not suport it..

i dont really even believe the things found on state ever worked...

i dont believe anything 

i believe what i can touch and see working... real numbers.. no games...

in the evidence of my work you see my concern about the insulation and about how many coils i burned
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« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2016, 09:01:33 am »
So thats why plants have roots.....OF COURSE....otherwise they'd just be floating around with all them molecules falling apart...ohhh wait....noooo....maybe the roots job is to put the molecules back together but in their natural form...HYDROGEN.....wow...ohhhh.....noooo ....what is the roots job ...to cut off the molecules  falling apart or else they'd just be floating around....ohhhh mercy im so excited...ima go cut some roots and see if they fly :)
I could be wrong but if this stuff is right i may have just discovered a new way to fly.
Crap forget about the roots im gonna go bag me up some grass and smoke it....i bet that works :)
Seriously. ...does anyone know where room 101 is i think im lost???,
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« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2016, 10:06:54 am »
Nice explanation...  8)

TGS so you dont have anything suporting the claim of ejecting electrons split the molecule into hydrogen and oxygen?

why do you come over here and try to say your theory is better than mine or something?

i´m trying to make a nice discussion... why dont we discuss your theory on your project section? i saw you made a very nice post of your theory on the other thread  " who is right... maybe this way you could give space for other lines of thought and have more space your self to discuss your ideas...

i just want to talk about something in few posts without leaving pages of pointless (i think) (i believe)

for this thread i posted my scopeshots i expect coments about that...

terrible things can happen when mechanics make the work of physicists, when physicist make the work of designer and when the designer make the work of the engineer

i mean we should recognize our superpower and go for it... it will sum with somebody elses superpower to make a super team...

i´m super inteligent, super nice, super smart, super dedicated, super arrogant and super funny

whats you super power?
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« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2016, 11:48:09 am »
How do I make this waveform? The red must have phase delay of pi/2. Someone said with a transistor.

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« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2016, 15:17:51 pm »
you need a zero current detector just like the modification i proposed to meyer pulse indicator or feedback ckt.... this will get you a squarewave with that timing...

its in my project section.. but as you are working on line voltage because of low freq will be convenient to use instead of the coil a small capacitor...

you will be shorting this component to the line basically such that its current pass thru the antiparallel diodes... check it out

for the frequency is low you can use 1n4007 as the diodes and 741 as the opamp...

you could even use two capacitors so you get isolated input,...



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« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2016, 16:42:49 pm »
Here is it...

you can simulate this easily and change values or components when you fell you need...

i changed it to capacitors for its better at low frequency for your case,,, in my vic i used a 10mh coil... ( thick wire) air core with a piece of broken ferrite inside...  a close core will induce a phase change.. as the core act as a load dissipating power,., the Q of the coil is greater with no ferrite but adding a little increase the inductance without adding too much losses... just wind a coil and try 

if you want to control the phase relation add a resistor between the capacitors and diodes.,. you find calculators of the phase relating the frequency and capacitor and resistor values.. no resistor will give almost 90 degree

(http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2998.0;attach=14537)
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