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Re: Stan Meyer's hydrogen fracturing process using Lasers
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2011, 18:53:50 pm »
I don't think the laser energy is used on the water itself, but, the gases. Also, the electromagnetic energy may not be intense enough to actually eject electrons, but, to keep electrons from recombining with the ionized gases. The idea is to keep the electron deficient oxygen atoms ionized until combustion. There may be no need for laser light to fracture hydrogen since the electronegativity of the ambient air gases along with high voltage potentials should be enough to disassociate the water molecules and ionize the hydrogen just before combustion.


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Re: Stan Meyer's hydrogen fracturing process using Lasers
« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2011, 20:30:55 pm »
He chose red LED's so he would not exceed the work function of the SS.

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Re: Stan Meyer's hydrogen fracturing process using Lasers
« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2011, 21:52:21 pm »
is there a reference in SM's materials i could go look up about red led's, for i dont understand yet what is meant by "red LED's so he would not exceed the work function of the SS "

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Re: Stan Meyer's hydrogen fracturing process using Lasers
« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2011, 00:18:11 am »
Dynodon says all the LEDs were red.

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Re: Stan Meyer's hydrogen fracturing process using Lasers
« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2011, 03:53:16 am »
ok thanks, Stan had a way of thinking, i will give some though to what might be the work function of the ss and what might be limits, for within the work zone are both the reflective surfaces and the polarised eletrodes.....

for my mind is looking at the figure 4-6 of the ambient air ionizer wondering what might be any significance to the drawn curve over the length of the positive and negative voltage zones, and if the colour of the led's were chosen to, say be red, so a limited amount of effort by the led's is put into the molecules - for what if more energy was put in by the led's in the voltage zone than needed or intended, might it produce something more than required or wanted....perhaps the thinking was to limit the energy influence of the led's  in that zone to say prevent an ignition there thus limiting the work function of the s/s? that would be keeping with stans views on kiss, safety, regulatory compliance and end result engineering.

im neither a scientist nor skilled electrical, physics nor mechanical engineer, the reasons im putting thought to this is to work out what is a practical and useful way to actually make such a device and to use it in the near future rather than spend a lot of time effort money and energy on just the wfc  my thoughts think there needs to be another step taken to make something practically useful- not a criticism at all but ive done a lot of reading over several forums and manuals and a lot of effort i see is still at the WFC and resonant choke stages. While there are brilliant and skilled people putting their valuable effort there, i want to find a way to understand what is required so a gas processor can be simply made to work, whether it be on an engine using a wfc or not.

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Re: Stan Meyer's hydrogen fracturing process using Lasers
« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2011, 05:23:08 am »
use red LEDs

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Re: Stan Meyer's hydrogen fracturing process using Lasers
« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2011, 10:49:28 am »
Man if i was going to construct a Gas processor i would make it like this:


1 the inner electrode would be my amp consuming device, around this (red hot heating filament) I would put a cylinder with high voltage as to deflect the electrons accelerating them so they collide with the air ionizing and liberating further electrons. This new liberated electrons than go into the heating element.


would be a good start.


In my opinion the heating element will already emit enough IR photons.