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Re: April 28th, Latest Alternator Schematic Update
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2008, 05:09:05 am »
i agree that he used 120 volts now, the new design sucks and does not produce any good gas, the new design was intended to restrict amp flow and thats just what it does,,, so less amp flow less gas... so im not sure i should even bother with it?

at this time the previouse alternator schematic is the better one, but this one i have not released yet shows how amp restriction works. if you're not an electronic kid then you probably cant tell much by just looking at the circuit.

later on, stan ran his car directly from water, not hydrogen.
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Re: April 28th, Latest Alternator Schematic Update
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2008, 11:34:48 am »
Aloha,
Hydrocars- You had mentioned that the new design was intended to restrict amp flow. Then you said "lees amp flow less gas".
Stan has said it's good to restrict amp flow but to maintain voltage. I have heard Mr. Boyce is using less than 1 amp.
So I guess that he is getting voltage (and major production) from his circuit and toroidals. I was told that Bob said frequency is not critical, or it's not in the frequency. 
I have no idea what your system consists of, but I am thinking that the really important part of this thing is in the
coils. And how they are configured.   
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Re: April 28th, Latest Alternator Schematic Update
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2008, 14:00:18 pm »
Bill,

i dont know where you heard that bob is doing many liters of hydroxy with less then 1 amp.
I do know that he uses higher volts, like 110 and lots of neutral plates, to get a voltage of 2 volts across each plate. He also uses chemicals.
His circuit is also here on the forum and shows a 3 frequency mixer into a coil.

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Re: April 28th, Latest Alternator Schematic Update
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2008, 14:08:38 pm »
Stevie

Your'e right. Bob's setup uses a 500W or bigger  inverter  (12V -> 110V), so his setup is using at least 40 amps to produce the +-80 liters per minute hydroxy. In his setup the frequency is indeed important and he uses 3 frequencies that are harmonics of each other, depending on the water round about  10.7 kHz, 21.4 kHz and 42.8 kHz

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Re: April 28th, Latest Alternator Schematic Update
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2008, 19:39:10 pm »


I think we should all have a closer look at the boyce circuit!

After all his design reaches 600-1300% beyond faraday as he states.

What I would like to do, or see someone else do, is build a boyce circuit that is more similiar to the lawton circuit.

For instance.



Build a boyce circuit which has the frequency ranges about the same as the lawton circuit, and make them gated with an adjustable mark space ratio like the lawton circuit.

Then build the torrodial core (as shown in the boyce circuit) but include he resonant charging chokes and diode as well)

Test the circuit using a meyers (tube setup) in pure tap water with no additives!

Test with all three at the same frequency throughout the entire frequency range, and mix frequencies and so on.



If anyone has the electrical knowledge, or comments about this please share, I would liek to try this out myself, or see someone elese try it if it is believed to be viable.
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Re: April 28th, Latest Alternator Schematic Update
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2008, 23:42:42 pm »
From the way i understand it, the boyce cicuit has 3 primary windings on the coil wich goes to the circuit, it has 1 secondary winding that goes to the cell, not only does the circuit pulse the primarys but he applies some form of voltage, 100 volts or so externaly to the secondary side some way or another, it is the spikes that ride on this voltage that does something?

thats the way i understood it from a friend i had dinner with.

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Re: April 28th, Latest Alternator Schematic Update
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2008, 15:17:07 pm »
Hydro

Page p78-102 of the document Chapter10.pdf written by Patrick Kelly, gives a detailed description of Bob's system:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Hydroxy/files/Chapter10.pdf

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Re: April 28th, Latest Alternator Schematic Update
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2008, 13:21:41 pm »
Aloha,
Stevie, while I don't personally communicate with Mr. Boyce, I have a close advisor who does.
I was told that Mr. Boyce is using less than 1 amp in his current work. Considering the output of electrons he is receiving, maybe he is using that power.
Otherwise, I agree that understanding how Bob's system works may well help us see where Stan was going.
Bill