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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #56 on: October 18, 2014, 01:08:26 am »
Catch you some rain water guy's.

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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #57 on: October 18, 2014, 03:40:14 am »
Hey Ronnie, we are missing rain here in brazil... almost missing water at the tap because of the hard dry time....

My guess is that water purity is not a problem,, Ronnie might be able to confirm that, i just guess or it should be very pure and the circuit will work on one way and maybe not pure in another... or maybe not, is just a matter of tuning like stan said...

of course 120ppm i not a small value...

but if i understood well theres no current that can flow because there is no circuit where the current can go... its pure voltage... my view

if i understood well it does not matter if we get sea water or rain... the headaches being the contaminants proportion changing as you consume water... another guess...

Steve check if you find this resin for deionizing, i guess is a good way to go,,, my filter i made with a piece of 50cm of a 1inch diameter pvc tube...



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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #58 on: October 18, 2014, 17:43:01 pm »
Catch you some rain water guy's.

Its raining here very often... :)

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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #59 on: October 18, 2014, 19:34:05 pm »
Well, first finishing winding the vic this week...
I hate winding coils.....
I can do it very good, but its not my biggest hobby....


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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #60 on: October 19, 2014, 13:54:58 pm »
I found the secret to wind them... you should use a card like credit card and press the wire on the sides to be able to not let spaces...

i`m using transformer varnish in this new coils i`m winding... every layer i paint with the varnish.. it helps a lot holding the wires together and dry out really quick so just paint and keep rolling.

i arrived up to 1700 turns without mass.. but after that it becomes complicated...

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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #61 on: October 21, 2014, 20:59:15 pm »
Again i have checked all pictures i have available, on how the windings and diode and resistor are hooked up in the VIC.
I must confirm that the drawing of Don Gable is exact the same as the drawing i made after looking all the photo's.


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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #62 on: October 22, 2014, 19:54:43 pm »
From this drawing i conclude that the coils should be connected all opposing each other...

I think its about adjusting the wave velocity to the phase velocity somehow.. .

if we had many sections of inductors in series having a capacitor between each inductor junction and ground its an analog of a transmission line... for each series or inductor and capacitor there should be 90 degrees of dephasing... maybe 4 sections would make 360...

if you start  to coupling this inductors than somehow i guess this phase tend to become greater than 90 and approach 180 when maximum coupling is reached...

if we couple them in the other polarity i guess the phase start to reduce...

I think theres still the need of something to act to generate the gas maybe even shorting the pulse forming network during the gate time,.. i feel something in the way...

I found a calculation for coaxial transmission line for the sizes of stan cell it gives a Zo or line impedance of 2.23ohm 

this is just a guess but what if the water cell was a coaxial transmission line of a 2,23 of impedance and open terminated?

i have calculated that around 73uH and 13uf capacitor should resonate and have this same impedance... at 5khz...

the problem is the hell lot of current tat is going to run at resonance .. like the circuits i use to do in 2008

with that reactance for every 10volts you need 4 amps circulating... well the resistance can be very low however... four amps times 1mohm would be? 16miliwatts while circuit holds 40watts reactive the input current would be in this absurd case 1.6ma








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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #63 on: October 22, 2014, 19:59:46 pm »
meyer talks about pulses of voltage arriving before the current.... so 90 degrees... could it be that the two chokes are two pfn's?