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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #48 on: October 07, 2014, 18:16:12 pm »
Thank you so much, all of you.
El solo hho lobo does not feel so solo anymore  ;)

Steve

Compliments for the cell bro!

You´ll never be alone! 

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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #49 on: October 11, 2014, 12:21:07 pm »
ok. Here are some measurements:

The capacitance of the 4 cavitys, measured without water:
0.035nF
0.036nF
0.038nF
0.039nF

With my tapwater it looks like this:
0.545uF
0.445uF
0.509uF
0.550uF

I have no idea if this is good or bad.
Time will tell.
Maybe if you guys can share yr measurements...

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« Reply #50 on: October 11, 2014, 17:18:03 pm »
ok. Here are some measurements:

The capacitance of the 4 cavitys, measured without water:
0.035nF
0.036nF
0.038nF
0.039nF

With my tapwater it looks like this:
0.545uF
0.445uF
0.509uF
0.550uF

I have no idea if this is good or bad.
Time will tell.
Maybe if you guys can share yr measurements...

my cells measure 17nf in one direction and 5nf in the other... in series the capacitance does not decrease linearly as expected too... with all the cells together 11 i get around 300pf ... with 5 cells in series i get around 1 or 2 nf


i guess this measurement will depends on the water ppm.. do you have the ppm of your water Steve? my ppm here is around 85 without filtering..

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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #51 on: October 12, 2014, 19:15:37 pm »
New measurement:

in series i measure 196nF with 4 cavitys filled with tapwater

Fabio,

How can i measure the ppm?

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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #52 on: October 16, 2014, 15:45:46 pm »
ok, i just bought me a small measurement tool for the ppm.....
Let you know soon what the ppm is of my tapwater.

Further, i am almost done building my winding setup for the VIC parts, which are not rond on the inside.
So, some extra things needed to be created out of nothing, which was fun to do.
I cannot wait to get the primary on.....

cheers

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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #53 on: October 17, 2014, 10:04:14 am »
Good steeve i got a very cheap one... now it measures zero because of my filter now and the capacitance droped to 1nf per cell... the outer tubes is not the seamless but it got 2,75 length

i constructed my filter with resin and so the pump force the water thru it continuosly making all the water in the system the most pure possible,,,


according to stan patents the variance in the resonant frequency at 1 to 20ppm is 10% if i recall well

i dont know what that mean but i guess the purest the better anyway..

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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #54 on: October 17, 2014, 10:20:11 am »
i[m getting more than 500v on the water and nothing for now...

i guess i understood what meyer called by resonant cavity and the resonant charging chokes... i don[t understand yet how he coupled the rf to the cell but i[m getting into that..

a resonant charging choke is an inductor that charges the pulse forming network to twice its voltage and its resonant to the effective capacitance of the pulse forming network.

this is circuitry used for pulsing magnetrons for radar systems,,,  basically they generate a pulse of a determined length and its length is determined by the pulse forming network capacitances and inductances.. .

when you hit a transmission line into its 1/4 wavelength freq the source see the opposite of the load... if load is a short the source see an open

if its 1/2 wavelength the source see it as it is...

but the magic about it is that it has a characteristic impedance given by its capacitance and inductance

so this is aka restricted current voltage source...

for example in a microwave for coupling from what i understood you can use a loop into the waveguide so the loop is a short circuit but its seen thru the quarter wave line as an impedance of certain high value...

so an artificial transmission line is what we are after.... aka pulse forming network...


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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #55 on: October 17, 2014, 16:59:44 pm »
Good steeve i got a very cheap one... now it measures zero because of my filter now and the capacitance droped to 1nf per cell... the outer tubes is not the seamless but it got 2,75 length

i constructed my filter with resin and so the pump force the water thru it continuosly making all the water in the system the most pure possible,,,


according to stan patents the variance in the resonant frequency at 1 to 20ppm is 10% if i recall well

i dont know what that mean but i guess the purest the better anyway..

Dear Fabio,

Dont start to laugh....
122ppm is my tapwater...
Ill guess thats why i never got a working Meyer setup?

Cheers