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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #256 on: April 28, 2016, 03:54:11 am »
The VIC on the secondairy side has 3 coils in totall as everybody knows.
Normally spoken, when these coils are charged by the core and primary, they shall dis charge, when the circuit is closed.
It starts with voltage and then followed by current. All normal stuff.
Is there any reason to believe that this is not happening in Meyers setup?


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« Reply #257 on: April 28, 2016, 10:07:53 am »
Not sure if i understood well your reasoning.. but i guess it seem correct so far all you said..


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« Reply #258 on: April 28, 2016, 12:36:08 pm »
Not sure if i understood well your reasoning.. but i guess it seem correct so far all you said..

So, the discharging coils will puts current in the cell..... whether we like it or not.
What i mean is that at the end , we have two options:
1. traditional coil discharge with start on high voltage, that creates a path for the charge / current that follows.
2. radio wave aka radiolysis and we transmit electromagnetic waves into the water, like Kansius did.

At least for the Meyer setup of things.
Maybe he did setup 1 and used more then 1 VIC for his cell afterall. Because 1 vic doesnt deliver enough Joules........


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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #259 on: April 28, 2016, 12:39:48 pm »
As he said in the new sealand vid:
If you want more gas, use more wraps. Or a bigger coil.

You know, if the coil discharge is too quick, nothing happens.
And you need a starting path in the water as well.
Thats why Dan danforth starts with a bit of electrolysis and then discharges his coils in the water.
I said this befor: a rope without any tension doesnt have any standing waves. But as soon as you make the rope thight, and hit it, you will notice waves....

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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #260 on: April 29, 2016, 03:20:59 am »
humm

yes

i think the bigger the coil willbe the bigger will be the potential it may be able to apply...

did you got my post on the theory behind the vic operation and my analogy to the magnetic circuit?


thinking of how to increase the electric field of the coil i was thinking that maybe we should have 4 coils to have a better balance... think about...
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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #261 on: April 29, 2016, 04:40:05 am »
i mean if we are up to accept this analogy the vic maybe create a condition where the coil electric field is used such of that of a magnet in a open magnetic circuit... meaning that the electric potential is there.. 

i guess a thicker wire coil would be stronger as electric field source than a thin wire,... 

in the patent meyer mention the chokes to be thicker actually

this meaning that a thicker wire would necessarely cary more of the electric field force

the potential can be negated on the other side by a thin wire since little current only should be allowed to flow saving space for the thick wire coil....

point realy being that the coils are field sources.. the secondary creates the open circuit somehow

the voltage of a coil is determined by the turns specially if its well coupled to another coil or primary thru a core..



 
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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #262 on: April 29, 2016, 11:37:14 am »
As he said in the new zealand vid:
If you want more gas, use more wraps. Or a bigger coil.

You know, if the coil discharge is too quick, nothing happens.
And you need a starting path in the water as well.
Thats why Dan danforth starts with a bit of electrolysis and then discharges his coils in the water.
I said this befor: a rope without any tension doesnt have any standing waves. But as soon as you make the rope thight, and hit it, you will notice waves....

cheers

i like your point of view and i kind of understand how you get it! nice one!

i´m trying to apply this knowledge to the water.... maybe a bias... 

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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #263 on: May 05, 2016, 09:23:24 am »
Here a response from another forum.
This forum claimed to have a working vic cell so i asked for some help:


Steve only advice I can give you at this time is this...

Revisit all information about Stan's WFC and VIC because there is something you have missed here and there.
Read Stan's birth of a new technology book again! take notes and don't read over things as you think you already know them.

Often we (miss the simple things) that make the biggest differences that define failure or suggests!

As I have said before. I cant help everyone as there is only one of me and our team comes first before all others.
Neal is correct when he says...Ronnie has already given enough info to get you started on the right track!

Go back to Stan's book.


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