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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #232 on: February 26, 2016, 21:43:14 pm »
Hello Steve.

Where did you got this core?

What is your AL value?

I contacted a supplier and said what range of frequencies i will use and they replied "we sugest about 2500 perm."

If you dont know and you have a LCR meter, you wind 100 turns or so, and measure the inductance with the mounted core, the  go to:
 
http://powermagnetics.co.uk/calculator

enter inductance and number of turns you winded and you get the AL value.

High AL value core saturates at low freqs.

Try a different core like old color tube  TV flyback core like Max miller did. I got some bubbles with tap water with this type of core.

I hope it helps a bit.
 

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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #233 on: February 26, 2016, 22:37:20 pm »
Hello Steve.

Where did you got this core?

What is your AL value?

I contacted a supplier and said what range of frequencies i will use and they replied "we sugest about 2500 perm."

If you dont know and you have a LCR meter, you wind 100 turns or so, and measure the inductance with the mounted core, the  go to:
 
http://powermagnetics.co.uk/calculator

enter inductance and number of turns you winded and you get the AL value.

High AL value core saturates at low freqs.

Try a different core like old color tube  TV flyback core like Max miller did. I got some bubbles with tap water with this type of core.

I hope it helps a bit.

Hi X-blade

The core has a permability of 2000.
I dont have a LCR meter, but i do have an inductance meter and capacitor meter.

The fun thing is, that i see lots of nice waveforms on my scope.
It doesnt matter which coil i use a secondairy or chokes.

Today, i added 1 extra diode in my setup and had a big succes!
Every 5 seconds, 1 tiny buble........

Yeah, it was still shit.

What did Max do? Thought he replicated a working VIC?
I just replicated the VIC as seen and measured by Don Gable.

So, with destilled water and 1 extra diode, i got some tiny bubles today, after trying of combining coils, turning them around, flipping, put them in series etc etc etc.....

My 2 cents is that some leaking current is creating the 5 bubles i seen today....









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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #234 on: February 27, 2016, 03:02:44 am »
people only logs to download stuf than keep in steath mode kkkk

yes man probably thats due to the low leakge thru water

i´m starting to think we should go and put some 25% of hydroxyde and start from it...

horvath seem to have inspire meyer in many ways... from the understanding of my reading or perhaps they did the same thing in different ways.. .

maybe we could get one from the other;;

meyer clearly claimed sea water could be used

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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #235 on: February 27, 2016, 03:15:46 am »
a super saturated solution would be very caustic... but acrylic stands well and so delrin should do as well

stanless steel should be used for some certain reason...

in horvath patents he uses nickel electrodes...


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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #236 on: February 27, 2016, 19:18:39 pm »
Maybe don or other guy changed the core gap and it changes the overall inductance.
Don sad it has no gap.
Max Miller showed a picture where wecan clearly see the gap. The hole on the coil former has any propose, think about it.

Nobody replicated it sucessfully.

Ravi Raju did his own way with 12v and 0.5A with conditioning. that was not properly a Stan Meyer replication.
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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #237 on: February 29, 2016, 00:22:00 am »
Maybe don or other guy changed the core gap and it changes the overall inductance.
Don sad it has no gap.
Max Miller showed a picture where wecan clearly see the gap. The hole on the coil former has any propose, think about it.

Nobody replicated it sucessfully.

Ravi Raju did his own way with 12v and 0.5A with conditioning. that was not properly a Stan Meyer replication.

X, Ravi was hiding lots of stuff and was not honest at all.
So, thats a bad example for me.

I played with gap and no gap. The vic is working for me better with a gap.


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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #238 on: February 29, 2016, 00:23:38 am »
people only logs to download stuf than keep in steath mode kkkk

yes man probably thats due to the low leakge thru water

i´m starting to think we should go and put some 25% of hydroxyde and start from it...

horvath seem to have inspire meyer in many ways... from the understanding of my reading or perhaps they did the same thing in different ways.. .

maybe we could get one from the other;;

meyer clearly claimed sea water could be used

If you start with potasium in yr cell, you cannot get it clean, almost, if you want to run it back on destilled and yr plastics might break down..
Its very agressive stuff..


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Re: The VIC with resonant cavity project by Steve..
« Reply #239 on: February 29, 2016, 00:26:28 am »
So, again, i put some hours in the famous vic, as i had a nice brainwave.

Nothing fancy to mention...

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