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Re: VIC pictures and Don's VIC notes..
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2014, 04:38:33 am »
this phrases are still resonating in my mind...  ;)

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Re: VIC pictures and Don's VIC notes..
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2014, 10:58:02 am »
Ron advised to focus on the primary.
After some research i ended by by flyback type transformers who function a bit different then normal transformers.
http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,2890.msg26982/topicseen.html#msg26982
The term "Flyback Transformer" is a little misleading and its more useful to consider it as coupled inductors rather than a transformer because the action is quite different with a conventional transformer energy is going into the primary and out of the secondary at the same time it does not store energy. With a "Flyback" transformer energy is first stored then released.

So, the approuch for the vic system of Ron, must be using gaps between the cores..
Ron, i just orderd some of your recommanded cores and will use them like flyback,s..
See what comes out of it ☺☺

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Re: VIC pictures and Don's VIC notes..
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2014, 11:04:09 am »
Cores with an air gap are needed to achieve the highest Q factor and temperature stability.....
I rest my case....

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Re: VIC pictures and Don's VIC notes..
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2014, 16:20:50 pm »
I just got the other day some 220ohm 5w resistors
and some 29awg wire..

Steve do you remember how many turns we were guessing there was in the vics?

if i remember well maybe over 2000 turns for each coil and 600 for the primary isn´t it?


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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2014, 16:30:24 pm »
Steve i have only one regard about your flyback idea, the flyback generates high voltage during the pulse off, while stan says that diode stays like a switch in a open position during pulse off or i´m confusing it?

except your talking about having the chokes to receive the pulse... correct?

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Re: VIC pictures and Don's VIC notes..
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2014, 19:14:18 pm »
Switching diode (55) of Figure (3-22) not only acts as a blocking diode by preventing electrical "shorting" to secondary coil (52) during pulse off-time (69) of Figure (3-20) since diode (55) "only" conducts electrical energy in the direction of schematic arrow; but, also, and at the same time functions as a electronic switch which opens electrical circuit (60) during pulse offtime ... allowing magnetic fields of both inductor coils (56/57) to collapse ... forming pulse train (64a xxx 64n).

that could mean that at this point the cell is already positively charged and can't discharge into the secondary since it forms a open circuit...

collapse is a work for fast rate of decrease or just a synonym of decrease?

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Re: VIC pictures and Don's VIC notes..
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2014, 20:06:39 pm »
I just got the other day some 220ohm 5w resistors
and some 29awg wire..

Steve do you remember how many turns we were guessing there was in the vics?

if i remember well maybe over 2000 turns for each coil and 600 for the primary isn´t it?

Please read my previous posts in this topic.
I followe Dons measurements. Primary ca 600 windings aka 10.5 ohms....
In the pictures you also find the driver of Stan for the vic. It has a diode over the primary.
No resistor.
However, maybe both might work.....




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Re: VIC pictures and Don's VIC notes..
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2014, 20:08:32 pm »
Steve i have only one regard about your flyback idea, the flyback generates high voltage during the pulse off, while stan says that diode stays like a switch in a open position during pulse off or i´m confusing it?

except your talking about having the chokes to receive the pulse... correct?

the secondairy coil discharges into the 3000 windings choke coils.....