Author Topic: How to find the efficiency of a fuel cell  (Read 21277 times)

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Re: How to find the efficiency of a fuel cell
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2008, 05:15:55 am »
Aloha,
Karebill, you said "ran it on the pulsed alternator design".
Is there a diagram of this somewhere that can be viewed?
Bill

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Re: How to find the efficiency of a fuel cell
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2008, 05:30:35 am »
i just cant see a 6 cell in series conducting? your gap is a little bigger than a hair? .030 gap is small like a needle. but i cant disagree because all your tubes are seperated., i am confused, i am like you, i do not want to give the technology to the ones that wants to make money with it, that is one reason i don't talk much.

then if you do post your findings, theres the fact that people will work on it, and not show their results, so thats another reason for not sharing not to mention that the dissbelievers will bombart you or ignor you.

i don't talk much because i dont want to get an argument started, but i will go out of my way and say if you produce what you say you produce, than you have enough to, you could say your setup is the impossible, i know of no one that has ever or can produce what you can produce given the power you are using with no additives.

but i feel your setup has additives lingering around causing the conduction, i wish you would have tested this before the additives. i am somewhat still skeptic because i have never seen a series sell work without additives.

if you are sure your cell works without additives, and you get what you say you get, then you have found the impossible.
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Re: How to find the efficiency of a fuel cell
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2008, 14:31:10 pm »
that still isnt that great compared to stans alternator he made all his gas with 24 watts  measured at the cell
to be exact was
 
                            4.4 amps  and 5.6 volts  with 9 tubes           
                            2.6 amps  and 7.7 volts  with 2 tubes
                            2.0 amps  and 7.6 volts   with 1 tube

  the rotor imput was  1.5 volts and .25 amps   huge difference from what you guys are doing his method was surgical not brute at all  these number are a deffinate fact

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Re: How to find the efficiency of a fuel cell
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2008, 15:34:57 pm »
Hi karebill,
As one can see from the pics, this below is your setup.
you have a positivley pressurized cell.

Did you tried connecting it so to have negative water pressure in the cell ? you only have to modify your setup a little bit !

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Re: How to find the efficiency of a fuel cell
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2008, 01:14:29 am »
Ok, there is another claim to back this claim up, for some reason its sounds like people has series cells working without additives? hrmmmm... the neat part is the guy backing this claim said he produces around 1.3 liters or something, he also said that is not exact measurements that he will have to confirm his gas output, thats just a ballpark figure.  hr uses about 300 or more watts.

he is saying something about 10 neutrals and 8 neutrals, not sure what he means, but i am trying to get him to reply to this tread.

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Re: How to find the efficiency of a fuel cell
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2008, 02:00:31 am »
Here are the pictures of my cell. Today I built and ran it on the pulsed alternator design with tap water and no additives. My results are 1.3 liters/min at 14.6 amps and  26.2 volts. all numbers taken at the cell. I put two 12 volt batteries in series to produce 24 volts and the output was far less.

So this is a +nnnnn- cell?

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Re: How to find the efficiency of a fuel cell
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2008, 03:16:55 am »
Today I got a new drive pulley. The old one was running the alternator at around 2500 rpm and the new on will run the alternator at 3400 rpm. I then ran the cell for 15 min then changed the water. I repeated this another two times. Here are some numbers that I got from different voltage and amp settings. I didn’t tune the pulse circuit to the recommended pulse. For these test the cell is wired 6 cell series. (#1) 25 VDC 3 AMPS 1 min 15 sec 1/2 liters. (#2) 33 VDC 5.3 AMPS 45 sec 1/2 liters. (#3) 40 VDC 8 AMPS 35 sec 1/2 liters. (#4) 38 VDC 8 AMPS 30 sec 1/2 liters. I then changed the cell to 3 series cells 3 parallel cells and changed the water again. (#1) 12 VDC 23 AMPS 40 sec 1/2 liters. (#2) 10 VDC 22 AMPS 41 sec 1/2 liters.

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Re: How to find the efficiency of a fuel cell
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2008, 03:37:27 am »
 One thing I noticed that when I used brute force with KOH I got large bubbles. With the alternator I get small foamy super white bubbles. Pochintwin that is a series cell. Hydrogenmask I put it that way because when doing brute force theirs more gas then water on the discharge side and the pump wouldn’t pump it. Mrgalleria, the pulsed alternator set up is in our alternator section. I have a few ideas to try I will post more later.