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Re: The water coil
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2014, 04:12:42 am »
this is for testing the principle...  after i'm going to test also the copper tube and iron tube versions....


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Re: The water coil
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2014, 03:53:01 am »
I guess the guests can't see the images is it correct?

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Re: The water coil
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2014, 16:59:01 pm »
I could really appreciate some discussion...

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Re: The water coil
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2014, 19:58:52 pm »
today I rethink the use of the electrons in comparison with the capacitor ground array I was telling you

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Re: The water coil
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2014, 21:52:59 pm »
today I rethink the use of the electrons in comparison with the capacitor ground array I was telling you

what conclusion did you took from that?

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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2014, 22:03:06 pm »
My test system is going to use only one core initially, the primary has 20 turns the snubber winding has 4 turns,,, and the water tube forms around 25 turns...

i'm going to pulse with up to 100 volts and the snubber winding limits the collapsing voltage to 500v

Electrolysis is a reaction that has a counter voltage associated to it in such manner that it consume a lot of power, if then a potential is developed inside the water in another manner the ions would have no opposing force to get discharged working like a fuel cell but in a forced manner...

The electric field associated is around 50v/m during the collapse of the magnetic field . so the current density should be up to 50 v/meter divided by the conductivity of the medium,,,,   

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paralleling primary coils or independently pulse?
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2014, 06:45:50 am »
I think that paralleling the primary coils is possible to use the three cores but the snubber is going to receive a very strong back pulse since now there are 3 transformers so also 3 snubbers in parallel.

I think is easier than creating 3 independent circuits... i guess the toroidal coil that i'm going to wind over the tube can be separated into 3 sections and than pulsed with 3 phase...

The greater the number of cores the greater is going to be the voltage induced. Of course if paralleling the primaries...

I think that if the tube could be thinner more voltage could be reached.. The electric fields however stay the same.... 

I insist and would like you to tell to me what you think about it ?

Draw a cell lets say electrode A is positive, and electrode B is negative. 2 v is supplied to it, the cell immediately get charged and current start to flow. The dielectric proprieties of water the dipole orientation is such that the oxygen points towards the A electrode and the hydrogen points towards the negative electrode. In such a manner as to reduce the electric field 81 times allowing proportionally more charge to be accumulated over the electrodes. The ions of opposite polarity get attracted to the electrodes and start to discharge at the electrode. The capacitance however and action as a fuel cell limits the operation since for each electron you want to add to the system you must provide some 1,45volts worth of joules to it (depending on electrode material) so actually the energy you are inputing to let current flow is 0,55v.

In the case im proposing the potential is provided directly to the water not thru the electrodes but the electrodes are just a mean for extracting the electric current from water so the efficiency of the electric field applied is 100% and so as now the internal 1,45 volts sums with the 100% efficient electric field you get a source of electric energy that never was thought to be possible. (if it works) 

Thinking about horvath patents had coils inside the cell and now i guess i understand why.
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Re: The water coil
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2014, 07:33:34 am »
I conclude that the electrons maybe can produce more work that W=qV ... when you give energy to a radial capacitor and move electrons to the inner plate with the outer plate disconnected you don't give all the energy you can take back when you connect the outer to ground.. when you have a battery you have two poles negative and positive that are limited by the oxireduction potential of the cells where energy consumed is related to I^2R...

how can you reuse the electrons inside you cell?  the kickback moves the electrons with a higher potential they have more kinetic energy but the current is the same?...for electrolysis you also need current to flow..
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