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Kiss method
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2014, 13:55:27 pm »
The more i work at it more i think, why nobody succeeded in this way if its so simple. I already tried this diagrams since some years ago... The only difference i feel is that now i get more a clear idea of what it should made like..

I tried to read some older posts from mine and others i felt like i was talking to myself from the past... like a time travel backwards from my point of view here in the future but is like the things i wrote traveled to the future and changed the future... =)

I remember myself making this same diagrams 4 years back in time and trying it and discussing... but no result and that is what bothers me. Why should it work now, i guess i'm afraid that it don't work another time and im going to start all over again designing a new theory and another way to achieve my goal.


I guess the kiss is what meyer added to the technology that gives the ability to common mortals to discover it, he said keep it simple stupid don't make it complicated.

I worked yesterday all day trying to add capacitors and other stuff to the circuit but no real improvements...

actually i found that it works best with the minimum amount of components possible..

(http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2855.0;attach=13368;image)

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Alternator setup
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2014, 14:59:20 pm »
I guess the alternator setup was used having a dc current flowing thru its armature coils and meyer may have applied a pulsed voltage to the field coil in such a manner to let it collapse... the coils may have be connected to three cells each... having no diodes or whatsoever in the line...

I'm almost sure that meyer may have changed the field coil proprieties/... i know is not clear to all but i guess it may work as a primary and the inductance is too high for that... My best guess....

I have an alternator here but i have only one and i would not like to took it apart probably is better to construct a new setup for me to try that out... but i think is possible to any of you try that! and post your results...





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Re: Kiss method
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2014, 15:18:23 pm »
(http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2855.0;attach=13368;image)


I believe this is the goal... Getting around 300V worth of ions collected around the plates and hit them with at least 1500V in the opposite direction to force electrons ejection to cause collisions and sub sequential ionization of the molecules and atoms.

I have a new friend that probably could be capable to calculating the mean free path and other parameters to understand more clearly how much fields are really necessary.

Meyer put it in a simple manner using ss plates and chokes... other patents uses plastics, other ceramic materials, i went into all that, constructed many things and nothing never worked properly, my first impression could be that i'm not really good at it, but i guess may be a frustration of all any kind of over unity effect really proved without questioning.

Meyer discuss thru the polarization process bla bla bla and in the end he just says that to get the hydrogen gas on demand you need to cause the resonant compounding action that is:

Cause the oscillation back and forth of the ions inside of it causing collisions and liberate gas in a subcritical state.

I simply asked myself, how in hell he did that without ever crossing the voltage backwards? Because i'm assuming he gave false statements like the potential will never cross an absolute potential ... witch must be a lie otherwise the resonant actions is not possible. Well it could only be at the electron extraction circuit varieties,,,  however if you substitute the diode by a dc source the game is changed, since then you are creating a constant DC electric field across the cell, however you are pulsing modulating the electric field sometimes increasing it sometimes radically reversing it!

Dan dan fort said that 1500 volts were needed to get results... this tells me something...

I just believe now it can work because i kind of know what im doing.

Meyer would never give up the secrecy of patents... i'm never give up for breaking the system.

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Re: Resonant Action (the Resonant choke system) Explained
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2014, 15:40:10 pm »
A bias dc with hv pulses from collapsing coils makes sense.
Thats what Danforth descriped and he talked with Meyer....

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Re: Resonant Action (the Resonant choke system) Explained
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2014, 15:49:13 pm »
Remember me publishing pictures of my scope on which you could clearly see the negative bemf pulse coming of the cell after pulsing it?



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Re: Resonant Action (the Resonant choke system) Explained
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2014, 16:18:21 pm »
I remember Steve, that back pulse i also saw it on books too... i remember that discussion...

The idea is that we want to switch the dc electric fields using coils being pulsed... You got it. this creates the conditions to happen what meyer described as resonant action during the polarization process..

So basically the polarization process consist of applying Dc to the cell..

The resonant action process consist of pulsing the cell above and bellow the applied polarization process.

this cause molecular ringing danforth talks about and probably if we keep getting the voltage higher during the combustion we get into the hydrogen fracturing process.

meyer was very clear but good understanding of the circuit was necessary to understand what he was talking about.




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Re: Resonant Action (the Resonant choke system) Explained
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2014, 17:08:16 pm »
Steve that beef pulse on the cell could be due to 2 things...

one:  the plates attracts charges and neutralizes when disconnected

two: there might be a certain measurable inductive phenomena in the cell.

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Re: Resonant Action (the Resonant choke system) Explained
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2014, 20:42:15 pm »
water is a dipole molecule there's a hysteresis when the voltage is changed in the water capacitor until the dipoles align to the e field and lower the capacitor voltage ...