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« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2014, 04:05:53 am »
Today i read many patents to see if i could find some other references…

The problem is that on patents they just don't need to explain why things works. For example there are patents that consider redirecting the magnetic field but they seem to not consider the induction it causes.. .or didn't noticed…

I got this idea because i got studied some about those guys from north brazil from the electron captor system… their patent they explain the lenz rules and i could finally understand that a increasing magnetic field is the same as approximating a magnet to a coil.
I went to the south of brazil to recover some pieces that i had at a collaborator place, basically many big cores and magnets,.. and during the the years eve i got this kind of revelation.

My old friend got me thinking,,, get specialized into ferrite cores, he said…

I guess is possible, to prove mathematically that i'm correct about this but i don't have the patience nor the mathematical skills to do so. I'm going to ask some friend from the physics mathematic course for some help with that….

Anyway i have a experiment to try prove that i'm correct.

Its simple a transformer and a magnet glued together like my first experiment. Basically the transformer must be pulsed and a load connected to the secondary. The primary must generate a counter magnetic field to the magnet pole (repelling) when energized. And basically the primary should have the electric current going into the dot while the secondary must also have electric current going into the dot. The higher the frequency i guess the more energy comes out.

In a normal transformer when you apply a positive to the dot normally you get a positive going out of the dot making a current so as to counter the initial mag field.

But In the case of the proposed experiment the positive enter the dot and a negative should be induced at the secondary dot. If you have a bifilar coil one is going to be positive and the other negative. Strangely this is the opposite of lenz rules and this permits infinite energy to be created!

Of course an oscilloscope having 2 channels is the only need to prove its correct.

I'm planing to make tests with water heating using the energy generated (in a calorimeter like) to analyze precisely the power output.

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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2014, 08:09:04 am »
Hi Seb, you have me digging thru mounds of paper and alltho I cant find exactly what you are referring to basically because im not understanding but ill  post some patent numbers I have here from research along ago I have on hand:
3333203  : Pulse Generator with Standing Wave Energy Storage (1967)
3576467 : High Voltage Spark Generator From Low Voltage Supply  (1967)

ehhh im sitting here with folder on top of folder.. ill try and find interesting reading for you and post more.
The theme from the 35676467 patent is an interesting primary addition is something your thinking?

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« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2014, 12:11:30 pm »
in this experiment are the coils wounded normally? are you sure the magnet will work like this?

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« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2014, 12:29:23 pm »
I was planning to test it today but appeared some recordings to do today probably tomorrow or monday i can test it.

I guess the MEG is somehow similar.  I than read all the patents that cited it and that it cited. Motionless energy generator,,,

as i said is just a transformer having a magnet glued to it of course it also must be pulsed and the polarity of the primary magnetic field must oppose the magnet field. Is similar to getting the magnet away from the secondary or create a negative changing magnetic field the fall of magnetic field thats why i know from my analysis that it should work.

I took a brief look at the patent you say it just seem to take advantage of the collapsing field that i mentioned some time ago in my posts to generate the high voltage,,,

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« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2014, 13:13:36 pm »
so there's one pole close to both coils right?? won't the secondary coil try to maintain the falling magnetic field and create a counter magnetic field to the primary?

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« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2014, 13:24:27 pm »
I guess you should analyze the flux on the core as a total, if the primary send a back flux to the magnet its reducing the flux on the core, the secondary induced current (falling magnetic field) also should work to reduce this flux thats why i say it helps the primary magnetic field instead of being a counter magnetic field but indeed its also counter the magnet mag field so it increases the flux reduction it should increase the emf at the secondary...

Basically is a magnetically biased transformer working with preferred direction… If you than deenergize the primary the collapse of the field will induce a positive in the primary and reverse the polarity of the secondary so it becomes positive and positive at the dots…

During energization positive into primary dot negative at secondary dot

During off pulse, positive at the primer dot and positive at the secondary dot

if everything is correct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarity_(mutual_inductance)

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« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2014, 14:54:05 pm »
but the secondary coil creates a counter magnetic field to the primary .. isnt it like having a tranformer inside a homogeneous magnetic field?

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« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2014, 15:32:47 pm »
No, in my idea the secondary current aways flows in the same direction of the primary current, so it never creates a counter magnetic field. Assuming you are reducing the field only to zero and not going negative reversing it.

The problem is that i guess the magnetic field is not homogeneous in this case.

The point is that is not the magnetic field of the primary that induces the voltage but the magnetic field changing negatively.

After the pulse terminates the induction is exclusively from the magnet.

So in worst case you apply energy just to reduce the field… even if i'm saying as the secondary consumes current it also helps reducing this field, meaning the higher the load the fastest the field goes to zero and higher should be the frequency. This mean some limitations but its a fantastic concept that contradicts all the assumptions and definitions thats forms the bases of physics rules.
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so during the pulse off, all the induction come from the magnet flux going back to the core.

If you look at the MEG patent you get a better arrangement for the core and magnet than my proposed experiment…