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Re: How Stanly Powered His alternator
« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2008, 16:32:34 pm »
The alternator is a generator, but you get out what you put in. A generator head generates a given voltage and splits it into phases. The reason I suggested this was I was reading a Canadian Patent last night where Stan mentioned more voltage would create more gas, ie. 100v DC instead of 12v DC. I could be wrong, just an idea is all.

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Re: How Stanly Powered His alternator
« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2008, 16:37:31 pm »
Only the alternator has the option to vary the 3 phase frequency. I dont think the redline generator supplies 3 phase AC?

Besides the 220volt motor can only supply AC at 60 Hz, and AC does not produce any gas at all. So it has to be rectified.

And if its not the alternator then why have the separate pulse box to pulse the rotor. And what was he pulsing if not the alternator?

It is an alternator no doubt...the thing is can we find an exact match for the motor and alternator like Hydro did with the redline DC to AC generator. My suggestion: If any of you out there knows an expert 'old school' mechanic or some one who works on alternators, show the pic and ask what make and model it is? Surely it cant be that difficult...knowing stan he probably used a common off the shelf alternator. The pic is dated 1984 so the alterntaor definetely has to be older than that.

The pics are as the only ones so far I have found that show the alternator and motor in such detail.

I am attaching the cell base and the rotor pulse box from the video it runs on water.  If it wasnt the alternator then what is the role of this box. Also is this an off the shelf job or something stan custom built himself?

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Re: How Stanly Powered His alternator
« Reply #42 on: April 03, 2008, 02:13:35 am »
the pictures you posted is stans show off video, he wasn't producing but maybe 6 cc's a sec in that video. The video of stan running his dune buggy with the cell sitting in the grass is what we're looking at. Im not saying its not an alternator but i have never seen an alternator contain Bullet style holes, it looks like to me that it is a driver motor and not an alternator.

If stan Ran his DC to AC Rotary Converter to the field coils Of the Bigger motor then used the small alternator looking motor to Start the motor then yes you can generate 3 phase, once the unit kicks on the smaller driver motor can be shut off, And the Generator unit will run or free spin by itself while generating 3 phase. 

so the DC to AC rotary converter can be supplying single phase 220 to the unit and the unit will generate a 3rd leg or 3 phase. you can rectify this 3 phase and it will be even so energy efficient it will make you want to chunk the alternator in the dirt and piss on it. But was stan doing this? We do not know but we do know he would have been stupid not to do it.  all we have is the pictures.

But The question is, why would stan NOT be doing this? he would be out of his mind not to, wouldn't ya think..

Google, Why use 3 phase? 3 phase is more engergy efficient than single phase and because of that if you Create a Single phase to 3 phase unit in your home your Bills will drop dramaticly, So YES 3 phase is more efficient than single phase.

The debate has just begun! it is the ones like us that will atleast try to solve these mysteries of what he was really doing,, But think about it,, 3 phase from the alternator, or 3 phase from the Generator? hrmmm, not a very hard choice bud.. the problem with using 220 volt 3 phase is you would have to "RESTRICT" the amp flow tremendusly, and i have not a clue how to do that unless you use some sorta variac, much like what looks to be in stans picture of the unit in the grass.. Then you could rectify it after it came from the variac, so i will be looking into 3 phase variacs and how they work.

LOL what would you do with 3 phase 220 if it was on your car? sound impossible? its not.
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Re: How Stanly Powered His alternator
« Reply #43 on: April 03, 2008, 02:31:21 am »
AHHHH,,, this explains that big controller box on stanlys car with all the buttons etc,,,, i think it was part of the variac to,, just my thoughts for now.

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Re: How Stanly Powered His alternator
« Reply #44 on: April 03, 2008, 06:40:39 am »
ok guy's, i cant say for sure if he used 220 volt 3 phase or he he just used 3 phase from the alternator, " i'll let you decide on that. " I really do not have a clue, i cant say he did and i cant say he didn't.. i simply do not know...

but it confuses my to why he would choose low voltage 3 phase over high voltage 3 phase... maybe someone will figure it out but i cant confirm neither..

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Re: How Stanly Powered His alternator
« Reply #45 on: April 03, 2008, 16:27:21 pm »
Hydro...I think you may be onto something about the variac. I searched and I think that thermos flask like device on the ground next to the alternator-motor is a variac. The white box next to the variac is now a puzzle...is it part of the variac?

I also have a gut feeling that the rotary pulse voltage frequency generator is also a variac that stan labelled himself. I am sure if we search online one of us will find the box ready to purchase off the shelf.

Now my question is what does the variac do and how does it relate to the WFC alternator motor combo?  Wikipedia is not very helpful.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variac


I still dont see how the drive motor is the main power source to the WFC and the alternator...can you sketch a schematic of how it could possibly work?  Hydro I guess the only person who can solve the  problem whether the smaller device next to the motor is an alternator is a professional mecahnic or equivalent. I still think its an alternator but probably a large tractor or truck alternator.

Check this one out...this has round bullet holes like the one in the pic and its a ford truck alternator.
https://www.isa-assoc.com/merchantmanager/product_info.php?cPath=63_121_133&products_id=101418

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Re: How Stanly Powered His alternator
« Reply #46 on: April 03, 2008, 19:49:49 pm »
Wiki article is okay. I think the best thing I heard about it is:

"power transmission applications, autotransformers have the limitations of not suppressing harmonic currents and as acting as another source of ground fault currents. A large three-phase autotransformer may have a "buried" delta winding, not connected to the outside of the tank, to absorb some harmonic currents."

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Re: How Stanly Powered His alternator
« Reply #47 on: April 03, 2008, 20:15:26 pm »
Hydro...I think you may be onto something about the variac. I searched and I think that thermos flask like device on the ground next to the alternator-motor is a variac. The white box next to the variac is now a puzzle...is it part of the variac?

I also have a gut feeling that the rotary pulse voltage frequency generator is also a variac that stan labelled himself. I am sure if we search online one of us will find the box ready to purchase off the shelf.

Now my question is what does the variac do and how does it relate to the WFC alternator motor combo?  Wikipedia is not very helpful.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variac


I still dont see how the drive motor is the main power source to the WFC and the alternator...can you sketch a schematic of how it could possibly work?  Hydro I guess the only person who can solve the  problem whether the smaller device next to the motor is an alternator is a professional mecahnic or equivalent. I still think its an alternator but probably a large tractor or truck alternator.

Check this one out...this has round bullet holes like the one in the pic and its a ford truck alternator.
https://www.isa-assoc.com/merchantmanager/product_info.php?cPath=63_121_133&products_id=101418


THE BOX ON THE FLOOR WHICH YOU DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS THE VARIABLE PULSE WITDTH GENERATOR OR WHATEVER STAN CALLS IT.
Look at the taper on the top and the union on the sheet metal on the sides.