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Re: How Stanly Powered His alternator
« Reply #112 on: April 22, 2008, 21:10:51 pm »
sure Hydro.
Page 60 is on its way....


Katz,

It is almost impossible to make a setup with 2 tubes without the use of spacers.
As you can see on attached page, Stan was just pumping Amps into the tubes.
The only fraud thing Stan did, was that he was measuring the volts and amps on the rotor.
What he didnt publish was the volts and amps on the WFC.
As you can see, he used 500watts for powering his WFC.

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Re: How Stanly Powered His alternator
« Reply #113 on: April 23, 2008, 03:54:05 am »
hey guys,

if u don't use spacers, and lets say... u support the ss tubes by an outside structure, won't that destroy the resonance as well??  whatever supports the ss tubes will inherently absorb the vibrations.

ma bee we can support the ss tubes by lets say a string ( 4 lack of better term), that will let them resonate ( like a wind charm). just will suck tryin to stop them from touching.

another thought, if you take small rare earth magnets, size of a large bb or so, and stick them on the out side of the outside ss tube, and on the inside of the inside ss tube, north to north, opposite of each other they will separate the tubes via the meisner  effect. just a rough idea here, nothin concrete, need more input! also don't know what the magnetic field of the small magnets will do to the effect of the whole process here...:(

thanx,

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Re: How Stanly Powered His alternator
« Reply #114 on: April 24, 2008, 05:39:01 am »



Katz,

It is almost impossible to make a setup with 2 tubes without the use of spacers.
As you can see on attached page, Stan was just pumping Amps into the tubes.
The only fraud thing Stan did, was that he was measuring the volts and amps on the rotor.
What he didnt publish was the volts and amps on the WFC.
As you can see, he used 500watts for powering his WFC.

Br
Steve

I dont know if it would be impossible and I also think stan meyer did not use spacers:), but if you take a look at how a tuning fork works one end will always be damped, that is the end of the tube that is connected or screwed into the mount. The bottom end will act as the node, while the top column will vibrate.  Even though the pipes are fixed at one end it will not preven them from vibrating or resonating given that there are 6 tubes.

http://www.onlinetuningfork.com/
http://www.stevespanglerscience.com/content/start_video/tuning-fork-demo-video?width=340&height=340

Stan never mentions the use of spacers anywhere and therefore cannot be discounted.

I dont know how many of you noticed this though that stan is claiming 180% efficiency.

I have huge doubts about the figures in the page 60 pic.  can some one explain how 1000 cc of gas volume is  1lb gas pressure?

using that figure the document claims his WFC gas production is @ rate of 7lbs/min or  7000 cc /min gas production.

Using that figure if we use the following efficiency calculation:

In a collected volume of HHO gas the amount of hydrogen energy will be 7744 Joules pr liter collected gas.

It is then assumed that the gas holds 20 degC and that the gas is saturated with water vapor.

Electrical energy is as known purely E (Joules) = Voltage * Amperage * electrolysis duration time

So efficiency where H2 and O2 gas is collected together is;

EFFICIENCY = 7744* V1 / (U*I*t)   where

V1= Collected H2/O2 volume measured in liters
U = Electrical input voltage
I = Amperage during electrolysis
t = Time of electrolysis measured in seconds

multiply above by 100 to get % efficiency
substituting: 7744*7litres/(12.5 volts*40amps*60secs) = 1.8069 * 100

or 180% overunity


The other major doubt is, how does he get the cell to draw 40 amps without electrolyte.  V = I * R and unless the resistance of the cell falls (by adding electrolyte for example)  you cant really 'pump' amps into the cell.

Also he says in his video idling the dune buggy 5 volts 2 amps on the rotor. Has anyone got anywhere near as close as meyers gas production by applying only 5 volts and 2 amps on the rotor?




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Re: How Stanly Powered His alternator
« Reply #115 on: April 26, 2008, 05:23:14 am »
you need this part  to do it the right way  plus injection system driver board
« Last Edit: May 14, 2008, 00:09:48 am by topsykretts »

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Re: How Stanly Powered His alternator
« Reply #116 on: April 26, 2008, 17:25:37 pm »
you need this part and this document to do it the right way  plus injection system driver board

Could you elaborate a bit more on these pics please?

That horseshoe  object in the plastic cover, is that a diode bridge from an alternator?'

You know i really think its unfair to call stan meyer a fraud just because we dont all have equal access to Stan's documentation. Personally I believe if all of Stans documentation and paraphernalia (for  lack of a better term) was open sourced, craking the his WFC method will not take more than a few weeks.

I sure do appreciate people coming out of the woodwork with Stans stuff but unless all those who have critical files, documentation and possibly parts of his WFC come out in the open, this all going to be a waste of time because there is no coherent logical deduction process in these posts.

But you cant blame human nature, I really think most members on this forum and else where think they can repatent Stan meyers work if they can crack it by themseleves and thats the real reason why they post pics and stuff selectively. I personally think thats impossible, but I have limited resources and if some one chooses to screw everyone else over I personally cant do anything about it. so just for the record I am very grateful for all those who shared stuff on this forum and please keep sharing because I have learned more from this single thread than anywhere else on the web.


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Re: How Stanly Powered His alternator
« Reply #117 on: April 26, 2008, 17:33:58 pm »
Does anyone on this forum know where Stan got his demo cell made?  He would have surely used the serivces of a machining shop for fabricating his cell and assembling his SS tubes and it cant have been far from Ohio. Or did stan make everything by himself from scratch?

All that screen printing on the rotary pulse voltage frequency generator box with WFC logo on it etc is a bit too complicated and expensive for stan to do it by himself? I am really curious where and how he got his demo cell made.


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Re: How Stanly Powered His alternator
« Reply #118 on: April 29, 2008, 15:35:32 pm »
Katz

You can download the huge file that everyone on this forum seems to have but no one wants to share!!!!

Anyone wants to download the Testing data can do so. Just use a bittorrent client.

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Re: How Stanly Powered His alternator
« Reply #119 on: April 30, 2008, 02:27:32 am »
What program or web page is used to get WFCIER.pdf.torrent ?