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Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
« Reply #56 on: September 20, 2012, 16:12:53 pm »
If you simply add a bit of alcohol to the water it will burn the fire direct out of the water.. at the time i did it i used a saturated solution of Na-oh with maybe 1% or 3 % not sure of alcohol.. 20 amps or more flow 12v applied.. the electrodes were 1 steel tube around 4 inches and a ss 10mm diameter bolt , 4 inches longs...


as long as the current is sustained a big yellow flame comes up right over the water... it didn't smell good, because i guess the nacl was burning too...

It was another of my 2008's experiments


Actually i guess meyer simply used non burnable gases instead of water steam...

If you take the output of a car exhaust and make a kind of mixer where you input hydrogen and oxygen you are able to sustain a flame.

for example you hook up the electrolysis cell to a tube having a valve... of course there must be at least maybe 20amps flowing
 the valve controls the amount of non combustible gases...

actually only ambient gases could do the same...

For me meyer uses the fact that if less than 4 % hydrogen it wont burn the same is reversely valid for oxygen...

In your case the steam will do this moderation, although i guess is not what he did...

Meyer said that the hydrogen oxygen burns at a speed of 350meters per second or so.. speed of sound...

so if the gas travels inside the tube at a greater speed the fire will never be able to reach the cell and cause explosion this is the quenching effect.

If you add the non combustible gases or ambient gases to the combustible gas before it get into the tube line the speed of the gas were already modulated so it can travel at lower speed while still preventing explosion of the cell, this was also the  quenching technology.. applied to modulate gas burning rate, while making it safe to transport...

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Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
« Reply #57 on: September 20, 2012, 19:05:25 pm »
My target is to decrease the size of my container so that the water will heat up immediately. I first thought of pouring fish rocks around my cell but now my thoughts are to just make a smaller container. Let me study on what I am going to do. Do not even try this with your acrylic tubecell I've already melted them a while back doing this. It is now clear to me how to make a gas burner for very little wattage.

I bet I can catch the burnt gas and recirculate it. I need to experiment with a different size radiator after I get the new cell up and running. I think that the engine was running on this mix to.

Why did Stan refer to the cell on his car as a Burner Plate Configuration that gets really hot!

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« Reply #58 on: September 20, 2012, 19:56:02 pm »
Nobody here has seen my cell or seen how I run it. My cell uses no additives instead I use a capacitor and Center tap my cell. I have been keeping this to myself for sometime now because I'm tired of being discredited. Here it is. It can produce 5 liters per minute at around 2k watts. I normally only produce 4 liters per min as I do not run it at its peak.

I came up with using a (Center Tap) in combination with a (Capacitor) to replace the use of additives! But there you have a much cleaner burn. I can make the water consume even more current by adding a second capacitor, or putting 1 capacitor on each side of the fuel cell. 
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« Reply #59 on: September 20, 2012, 22:56:27 pm »
Nobody here has seen my cell or seen how I run it. My cell uses no additives instead I use a capacitor and Center tap my cell. I have been keeping this to myself for sometime now because I'm tired of being discredited. Here it is. It can produce 5 liters per minute at around 2k watts. I normally only produce 4 liters per min as I do not run it at its peak.

I came up with using a (Center Tap) in combination with a (Capacitor) to replace the use of additives! But there you have a much cleaner burn. I can make the water consume even more current by adding a second capacitor, or putting 1 capacitor on each side of the fuel cell. 

You do the same as i did with my drycells. You use a rectifier and the capacitor takes care for stabilizing the pulses from the rectifier to your cell.
Its the same as using a stabilized power supply or battery.
But you have to use 10 batterys of 12volts in serie to get the same as you do now with the variac and capacitor.... :)

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Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
« Reply #60 on: September 21, 2012, 10:38:37 am »
Stans water used water that was 32 grains hard. This is Unusually hard! calcium and magnesium is what causes this hardness, if you remove calcium and magnesium the water becomes soft.

Stans water was very hard, I do not know how to get water 32 grains hard! The calcium and magnesium could have acted like a Hydroxide solution. Can someone test what thats 30 grains hard?

Google water grains and see how soft or hard your water is. Epson salt contains Magnesium

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Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
« Reply #61 on: September 21, 2012, 17:23:18 pm »
You done very well with the phone interview :) The well water was deffinately "softened " before Stan used it from the tap of that fellas home I would have to assume because I really dont think they drank or actually used 32 grain hard water for every day use...  ya think??Hard water usually smells like rottten eggs cawz of the hydrogen sulfide in it. Maybe ask that fella wat type of filteration system he had on his well ?My guess is the water was filtered ultra pure .Ive seen rain water spark(red) with 12v once..  thats one thing ive never seen any one post a video of...  looking inside the tubes with the spark thing going on :) His brother Steve even once said you could see "it" looking down into the tubes but he called it a ribbon wave or something didnt he??
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Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
« Reply #62 on: September 21, 2012, 22:15:48 pm »
I use caoh or pickling lime to reach high hardness yet it won't get up to 32 grains which would be incredible

Slightly hard = 1-2 grains per gallon (total grains x 17.1 equals ppm)

Medium Hard = 3-7 grains per gallon (total grains x 17.1 equals ppm)

Hard = 7-10.5 grains per gallon (total grains x 17.1 equals ppm)

Extremely Hard Water = 10.5+ grains per gallon (total grains x 17.1 equals ppm)

Note: Each ppm of iron equals 4 grains per gallon of hardness.


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Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
« Reply #63 on: September 22, 2012, 05:24:01 am »
You done very well with the phone interview :) The well water was deffinately "softened " before Stan used it from the tap of that fellas home I would have to assume because I really dont think they drank or actually used 32 grain hard water for every day use...  ya think??Hard water usually smells like rottten eggs cawz of the hydrogen sulfide in it. Maybe ask that fella wat type of filteration system he had on his well ?My guess is the water was filtered ultra pure .Ive seen rain water spark(red) with 12v once..  thats one thing ive never seen any one post a video of...  looking inside the tubes with the spark thing going on :) His brother Steve even once said you could see "it" looking down into the tubes but he called it a ribbon wave or something didnt he??

I think that there is things missing. BUT i also know stan used a Boiler plate configeration. He can be seen on video Pointing at it and said that was the (Boiler Plate Configeration.) and I strongly believe that the water was hot like I shown in my video last of using steam and hydroxy. I do not want to wear out my welcome, I would love to talk to the guy some more but I do not want to bother him or make him feel uncomfortable in any way. He told us all a great deal and if you think about it, he said the aluminum was catching on fire, this tells me that his silo lens was so powerfull it would melt aluminum. he could have heated the water and got the superheated steam from it and mixed it with hho.

I have also seen my very own parallel tube cell spark. (Looked like sparkles all over my tubes) they was not submerged but was prior. Right now I am not certain about anything stan was doing, I have seen ALOT and I've seen the technology work consuming current. Just the other night I learned that I could run an engine on much less HHO than I thought buy letting the cell OVERHEAT to a point the water become superheated, and the Current draw has to match the steam output perfectly or you get either too much H or Steam, you have to balance it out. I seen the engine run!

I do not know what to think of what stan says in his videos. Right now my mission is to do my own thing and follow my heart and forget what he was doing. I am out to find something that we can bennifit from no matter if its how he done it or not. right now,,,,

I have been promised a burner that will FRY an egg. I shared this in my last youtube video. That is my direction and that is where I am going! I believe I can Fry an egg with under 1k watts. I also believe you can further alter the gas once I get it understood. My goal is to make a Burner that everyone can Make very fast and very cheap. I want to share it ASAP but my time is Agravated by my 2 companies that I own. HVAC and I Rebuild Recks. I am limited at this time and have to stall.

Thank you very much for the complement, I wish we knew more. Right now I am trying to share everything and I am holding back no info so what I know I share or I try to. If I hold back something its not on purpose..

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If you go back and listen to the Audio, you will hear him say the water sounded like it was starting to boil like water boiling in a pan when it starts to boil.