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How much HHO do we need?
« on: August 24, 2012, 00:09:46 am »
Assuming
Speed 60 km/h
RPM 1300 RPM
Economy 10 L/100 km

We can arrive at 0.1 L / 1 min

Further assuming
0.1 L/1 min
RPM 1300 RPM

We can arrive at
0.1 L/1300 RPM
1 mL/780 RPS
1/780 mL/R for 6 cylinder engine
1/4680 mL/R per cylinder

Conclusion is that while running a 1300 RPM each cylinder would require 1/4680 mL of gasoline for each ignition stroke.

How does that compare to requirements for HHO?

If we have a HHO unit for each cylinder, couldn't we accomplish this for each cylinder now?

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Re: How much HHO do we need?
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2012, 02:27:22 am »
If you go to the Hydrogen Engine Center website it provides a good amount of information on quantities of Hydrogen needed to run a variety of engine sizes, although their engines are built for ground based power applications.

This might be helpful for your questions as they have done a lot of work in this area?

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Re: How much HHO do we need?
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2012, 02:35:59 am »
We are also running numbers on how much hydrogen we are going to need to drive an over the road truck down the road running only on HHO made on the truck.

It will take a few days to get numbers done. But we are going to need to split the oxygen out of the HHO stream, in the range of 400-1400 SLM. Any info on where we can find a filter to to do this would be helpful?

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Re: How much HHO do we need?
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2012, 19:29:19 pm »
From my own experience, you need at least 15 ltr hydrogen to fully run a 600cc fourstroke 4 cylinder engine....
Note: hydrogen, not hho.


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Re: How much HHO do we need?
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2012, 23:05:37 pm »
From my own experience, you need at least 15 ltr hydrogen to fully run a 600cc fourstroke 4 cylinder engine....
Note: hydrogen, not hho.


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15 ltr hydrogen ....

Per minute?  For what?

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Re: How much HHO do we need?
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2012, 23:34:20 pm »
From my own experience, you need at least 15 ltr hydrogen to fully run a 600cc fourstroke 4 cylinder engine....
Note: hydrogen, not hho.


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Per minute, of course.

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Re: How much HHO do we need?
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2012, 01:12:00 am »
Steve,

Check out the website at Hydrogen Engine Center and the quantity of hydrogen they use on a variety of engines they run for power gen. All of their engines are hardened and made to run for 10 plus years on pure hydrogen.

They have 1400 engines in the field and really know their stuff. I think you guys have a new company over their called HyEngine.com or something like that. They are doing some very cool things with Hydrogen motors as well.

But these engines consume great quantities of hydrogen, so very cost effective generation is critical. It is also critical that you do not have to compress it, store it, transport it, and build an infrastructure to support it. Even if it is cheap to make, if you still have to do all of the latter, it doesn't play.

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Re: How much HHO do we need?
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2013, 21:23:47 pm »
Just watched a youtube by americanantigravity and he said HHO at 1-2 lpm in a conventional car couldn't possibly improve gas mileage if it was a straight burning (exploding?) oxidation process at such low levels but said the separation and recombination electrolytic processes might be some nuclear process yielding alpha particles, similar to the Papp engine.  offered some detection evidence of nuclear particles.