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##### More volts more turns...
« on: August 23, 2012, 00:18:54 am »
I concluded that the pulse is collapsing and thats why i'm burning so many switches...

I'm making a new bobbin with separate cavities for the bobins, made of resin and fiber fabric or glass fiber... now.

Hope tomorrow i can start winding it...

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##### Re: More volts more turns...
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2012, 18:58:17 pm »
The big deal with this transformer is that it works in a kind of two modes one is the transformer mode and the second is the kick back mode but the energy is not consumed during the kickback at the secondary system as amps are restricted(diode makes of it an open circuit) ... So it goes back and sums the primary voltage with the source to kill the mosfets...

As i was burning my 600v igbts, it means that i'm reaching 600 at the primary or more... while i'm inputing max 50 volts, this tells me that, excess of 12 times more voltage was developed... other than the transformer turns relation..

I mean

My primary had 33 turns was pulsed with 50 and got back more than 600

The chokes had 100 turns it was receiving 150volts and during collapse more than 1800v

So I will reduce the primary turns number, an increase the chokes size... and also the secondary...

If my switch could handle more volts the collapsing voltage could be much greater as it was being limited by dissipating the power at the snubber and resistor in parallel with the primary,,,

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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2012, 09:58:29 am »
In-Line Circuit Components
Lengthening Inductor (L11L2) lengths applies an even higher Voltage Potential (66/67) across Resonant Capacitor (140 -170) (ER) since Inductance Reactance "Stores" Energy and, is expressed by
(Eq 19)

Inductance Reactance directly determines "Stored" Energy (Wa) Which is controlled by input Voltage Potential attenuated or varied by way of Voltage Amplitude (Vo xxx Va xxx V b - Vf xxx Vg xxx Vn) of Figure (7-13) and/or Gated Pulse-Frequency (49a xxx 49n - T3 - 49a xxx 49n), or both.

Inductance Reactance performs several functions simultaneously or to given stimuli: increases applied voltage amplitude (Vo - Vn), doubles input frequency (64a * 64b) when 50% Duty Cycle Pulse (Tl = T2) is inputted,

effectuates "Step Charging Effect" (680) of Figure (7-7) when Pulse off-time (T2) is less than Pulse on-time (Tl) ...

determining voltage swing from highest voltage level (Vn) to volts switch-off point (Vff), and establishing Impedance (FL) which minimizes heat loss of electrical input power (49) by impairing electron movement.

Inductor (Ll) acts and performs in like manner to Inductor (L2) since both Inductor (L1/L2) are physically the same size and shape.

Thermal Explosive Energy-Yield (gtnt)(16a xxx 16n) instantly produced from water (85) is determined by Voltage Amplitude ( xxx Vn), Duty Cycle of Pulse Train (T1 - T2a xxx T1 – T2n), Gated Pulse-Frequency of applied Voltage Potential (49a xxxx 49n - T3 - 49a xxx 49n), Inductor (LIIL2) length, Secondary Pickup Coil (523) Length (FL3a xxx FL3n), dielectric gap-spacing (Cp), or any combination thereof.

Multi-layer Coil
Inductance of a multilayer coil of rectangular cross section can be computed by below formula when optimizing maximum distributed capacitance (Cda xxx Coo) and distributed inductance (Dla xxx DIn) of Figure (7-3) to intensify Inductance Field Strength (FLa xxx Fln) to function as a voltage multiplier in switch-off conditions (612a xxx 612n), as illustrated in (710) of ~. Figure (7-10) as to VIC Coil Assembly (580) of Figure (6-1) and, is expressed:
(Eq 20)

How a voltage multiplier work? Doesn't it charge in parallel and discharge in series?

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##### Re: More volts more turns...
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2012, 10:11:18 am »
electrical power (P) is an linear relationship between two variables, voltage (E) and amps (I).

Amp restriction beyond "resonant action" occurs when unipolar magnetic field coupling (71) of Figure (3-23) is allowed to simultaneously drop (pulsating magnetic field) across both resonant charging chokes (56/62) during pulsing operations since electron mass is a electromagnetic entity which is subject to inductor fields (56/62) produced by pulsating magnetic field (71a xxx 71n) of Figure (3-23). Amp leakage (electron coupling to water) to water bath (68) of Figure (3-24) is further prevented by encapsulating resonant cavity (57) in delrin material (72) of Figure (3-25) which is an electrical insulator to high voltage. Delrin material (72) insulator value remains intact since insulation material (72) is resilient to water absorption.

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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2012, 12:51:30 pm »
All nice texts Seb!

Are we chatting one on one?
This forum has lots of members but a few post here and never show themselves! Too bad!!!

My question is what you are trying to build, I can not follow exactly

As you know there are different devices Stan build: 8XXA, all copper VIC, injector VIC etc.

I noticed the main focus on other forums is on the Injector VIC now. The injectors are more difficult to build DIY and let alone see how they preform...

My focus is on the Resonance all copper VIC transformer on a UU-core and the 3 inch WFC.

To bad there are not more builders posting their findings here! There are 3D printed bobbins for sale ready for coil winding if you look at the right places!!!

You have to start building this device and see for yourself and with more experimenters trying to figure this out!!!

Problem I have when I incorporate the WFC into the VIC circuit. The WFC is still a dead-short leaky capacitor.
I have step-charge effect at the choke coils and Stan described this effect seen at both the exciter plates.

It's giving me a big headache (probably for a very long time), I don't see this when I connect the WFC only a AC shape signal. The 180 degrees are lost, seen when the WFC is not connected.

I can conclude the VIC I now have, has not a good signal coupling with the WFC.

I don't know where to look a this moment. Do I have the right core, are my voltages high enough to start the EPP.

So more research and help is needed...

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##### Re: More volts more turns...
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2012, 16:12:48 pm »
How many turns you got?

Did you wired the way I described?

Keep it simple stupid don't make it complicated.

Is what i'm trying to do now.

Forget it is a short circuit for a moment... what is needed, to apply high electric fields restricting the amps.

In that short text, stan clearly states that for achieving step charging effect the pulse width must be greater than 50%

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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2012, 22:58:34 pm »
How many turns you got?

Did you wired the way I described?

Keep it simple stupid don't make it complicated.

Is what i'm trying to do now.

Forget it is a short circuit for a moment... what is needed, to apply high electric fields restricting the amps.

In that short text, stan clearly states that for achieving step charging effect the pulse width must be greater than 50%

I use the VIC configuration for the copper type mentioned above.

My primary has 600 wnd and 30AWG, the secondary and chokes have all 3000 wnd also 30AWG.
All coils wound same clockwise direction.

In that short text, stan clearly states that for achieving step charging effect the pulse width must be greater than 50%

I only pulse the circuit with 50%, lets see what happens when I change this with open-circuit...

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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2012, 05:16:47 am »
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Does using my choke core not allow HV to be read directly across any source of Fuel cell containing tap water?? Maybe being 2 close Plates or an unlimited amount of tubes in parallel?

Have you not managed this with my core, Not that the Primary or secondary plays no part in this voltage read across the cell OTHER than the SECONDARY COIL of the step up transformer acting as a conductor Closes Switch for the back EMF of the Choke to source its way threw?

To better Clear up the confusion, with my choke it does not matter what kind of material the coil is made of, it does not matter the amount of wraps, and it does not matter the number of wraps!

Also, for the Last Question,. Is my Choke Core In Use at this moment? I would Indeed like to have it back so that I can (Pay) a company to AnaylizE this core so that I can have distributor Sell me the part it several different shapes and sizes.

IT is not the core I care about, it is what the material is made of that disturbs me to the point I am about to loose my patience. We want to know what the core is made of! We all want to play with this core or cores very close to it so we can ALL gain these same results (Cores that Allow very high voltages to be read across water.)

As we have found, the Step up Configeration, Number of wraps, size of core, None of that means anything accept the TYPE OF THE MATERIAL THE CORE IS MADE OF. That is what makes the setup work, The core material type.

Please Send the core back to this address A.S.A.P so I can Dedicate MY TIME in have someone that knows what they're doing figure out what type of material it is.

I WILL PAY WHATEVER YOU WANT for you to ship it back. My shipping address.

Florence, AL 35634
Brian Coats.

You can instant message me an email here of the amount to be paid, along with the Paypal Email Address you want me to deposite the money into!

I'm sure I've given you guys over a year to learn what this core is, it has not happened. I am not pointing any fingers, Just send the core back.

Please let me know your Intentions. Thank you,, Hydrocars,  Aka Brian Coats.

THIS WAY, I"LL GET THE CORE MATERIAL POSTED FOR EVERYONE TO REPLICATE HV ACROSS ANY CELL CONTAINING ANY TYPE OF WATER.

Id you have any more cores youd like to send for testing, feel free to do so as I will anylizE them as well.