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Amp restriction buck mechanism...
« Reply #56 on: August 13, 2012, 12:31:37 pm »
The secondary during pulse off reverse bias the diode to allow the collapse of the field in this manner. As the secondary creates an emf of proportional magnitude it saves the diode from high voltage reversals... It must keep balance. but some current must flow so energy is accumulated in the chokes...

The tuning coil may be to adjust the relation of voltage choked for a given type of water...

In the last post i said the secondary was smaller than the tx4 tx5 well actually should be bigger or wont hold the diodes wide shut.

 
If the secondary is canceling the chokes than the chokes acts like two extra primary coils by the action of the current flowing because of the secondary thru the diode..

The more abrupt it goes more it restricts...

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Re: Amp restriction mechanism frequency doubling
« Reply #57 on: August 13, 2012, 12:55:07 pm »
Is incredible to think that you can apply 1 zilion volts at wish... no amp influx because of the electron bounce phenomenon

This Dipole cannot be killed, because it is inside the coil.. . What happens is that the water is a dielectric and so charges will be separated if the field is not uniform.

 

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Re: Amp restriction buck mechanism...
« Reply #58 on: August 13, 2012, 13:47:45 pm »
The secondary during pulse off reverse bias the diode to allow the collapse of the field in this manner. As the secondary creates an emf of proportional magnitude it saves the diode from high voltage reversals... It must keep balance. but some current must flow so energy is accumulated in the chokes...

The tuning coil may be to adjust the relation of voltage choked for a given type of water...

In the last post i said the secondary was smaller than the tx4 tx5 well actually should be bigger or wont hold the diodes wide shut.

 
If the secondary is canceling the chokes than the chokes acts like two extra primary coils by the action of the current flowing because of the secondary thru the diode..

The more abrupt it goes more it restricts...

Seb, we have all the coil measurements on file so can they be used with your theory ?

I have always AC at the WFC, even HV but nothing happens with the water, there must be something else happening in the coils interaction with each other what we still never found here !!!

Stan had a thin core, this is chosen for a reason. This is a "charging inductor" not a "filter inductor" that's why is has a thin core (to reduce core losses).

1100 perm is too high, and with this core I pulse it with more than 25kHz. My lower perm core needs 14Khz. My guess it is a core in the range of 400-600 perm.

NOTE. Gating the pulse doesn't change the AC swing only reduces current use.

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Re: Amp restriction mechanism frequency doubling
« Reply #59 on: August 13, 2012, 14:29:01 pm »
My RIGOL waveform generator has nice names generating gated pulses for the parameters.

PULSES have duty cycle and frequency adjustments and have the same names as Stan did.
GATE has also duty cycle and frequency adjustments but my RIGOL give it different names: CYCLES and PERIOD.
 
One CYCLE has one PULSE ON and one PULSE OFF at 50% duty cycle. PERIOD in milli seconds adjusts the time when the CYCLES are generated.

The CYCLES (number of PULSES) charges the inductor and the PERIOD the frequency of TIME when not charging the inductor.

Very nice!

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Re: Amp restriction mechanism frequency doubling
« Reply #60 on: August 13, 2012, 17:38:30 pm »
I don't know if you understood what i meant by electron bounce phenomenon,

Is the fact that secondary contrary voltage allows voltage potential of opposite polarity to be applied to the water without amp influx.   
Whatever current flowing, will increase secondary voltage because its configured as buck regulation... The chokes acts as a primary...
And during pulse off the secondary ensures the diode turns off and keeps the voltage across the diode within its PIV limits as its rise will be proportional to the voltage rise at the chokes since they share the same magnetic field collapsing time...

(http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2474.0;attach=11357)

Bounce means jump right?
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Re: Amp restriction mechanism frequency doubling
« Reply #61 on: August 13, 2012, 18:31:20 pm »
I don't know if you understood what i meant by electron bounce phenomenon,

Is the fact that secondary contrary voltage allows voltage potential of opposite polarity to be applied to the water without amp influx.   
Whatever current flowing, will increase secondary voltage because its configured as buck regulation... The chokes acts as a primary...
And during pulse off the secondary ensures the diode turns off and keeps the voltage across the diode within its PIV limits as its rise will be proportional to the voltage rise at the chokes since they share the same magnetic field collapsing time...

(http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2474.0;attach=11357)

This "electron bounce phenomenon" is not very clear for me, Seb! Thanks for reminding me about it!

So the "isolated electrical ground (61)" is the place where the "electron bounce phenomenon" happens ?
Here the electrons can not move to any place in the circuit. In the Fig you posted it is named: "isolated electrical circuit".

Stan mentions this "electron bounce phenomenon" in Memo WFC 426 Section 7.

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The Voltage Intensifier Circuit takes advantage of the "Electron Bounce Phenomenon" to trigger Hydrogen Fracturing Process without amp influxing.


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The bucking fields LOAD REGULATION
« Reply #62 on: August 13, 2012, 18:45:58 pm »
It's easy to lose sight of what voltage regulation means in the real world.

Many people mistake this to mean that a transformer with 10% regulation will keep the output voltage to a value within 10% of nominal. That's simply not so. Let's take a look at what transformer voltage regulation is, and why it's useful to you.

In any step down transformer, the secondary current produces voltage drop across the resistive and reactive components of the transformer's secondary side. On the other side, the primary current produces voltage drops across the resistive and reactive components of the transformer's primary side. From this, it's easy to see the primary voltage will be less than the supply voltage, and the secondary (output) will be less than either of those.

Let's assume you have no load connected to your transformer. In such a case, no secondary current flows. With no current, you have no voltage drop across those resistive and reactive components of the transformer's secondary side. But, another thing happens. Without a secondary current, the primary current drops to the no-load current—which is nearly zero. This means the voltage drop across the resistive and reactive components of the transformer's primary side becomes very small. What's the net effect? In a no-load situation, the voltage on the primary is almost equal to the supply voltage, and the secondary voltage nearly equals the supply voltage times the ratio of primary windings to secondary windings.

You might assume the transformer's output voltage is highest at no load. It would then make sense that (under loaded conditions) the transformer's resistive and reactive components cause the output voltage to drop below its no-load level. This is a logical assumption, but one that's not necessarily so. Depending on the power factor of the load, the output full-load voltage may actually be larger than the no-load voltage.

The voltage regulation of the transformer is the percentage change in the output voltage from no-load to full-load. And since power factor is a determining factor in the secondary voltage, power factor influences voltage regulation. This means the voltage regulation of a transformer is a dynamic, load-dependent number. The numbers you see in the nameplate data are fixed; the number of primary windings won't change; the number of secondary windings won't change, etc. But, the voltage regulation will vary as power factor varies.

Ideally, there should be no change in the transformer's output voltage from no-load to full-load. In such a case, we say the voltage regulation is 0%. To get the best performance out of your transformer, you need the lowest possible voltage regulation. You should calculate the voltage regulation and save the result as a troubleshooting and predictive maintenance benchmark. Suppose the percentage change is too high. What do you do? You now know you need to look at power factor correction for the loads on that transformer. A power factor meter can be very helpful in this case.

http://ecmweb.com/content/basics-transformer-voltage-regulation


So the loaded voltage can be greater than the no load condition, if enough feedback is used.

I'm in the matrix now, i see the transformer almost as a motor-generator turning... A varying flux is equivalent to the coil approaching or getting far from a magnet.

The electron bounce phenomenon holds electrons inside the coils by the opposing fields, so they can't jump over the water gap, so only the potential or electrical stress is applied. For an electron to jump across the water it must first fight all the secondary contrary well potential field. Is it clear now? oh and in the case of the pulse off the diode is also opening the circuit.

About the core size, is all that is needed for those power ratings at that frequency, 40w... more than enough since little current flow.

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Re: Amp restriction mechanism frequency doubling
« Reply #63 on: August 13, 2012, 19:09:41 pm »
Thanks Seb!

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Thereby, preventing coil-ringing during each pulse off-time ... allowing Electron Bounce Phenomenon (EbP) to occur without amp influxing within VIC Matrix Circuit (690) of Figure (7-8) as so governed by Circuit Resistance Equations (Eq. 9) which, in activated electrical-state, allows positive Voltage Pulse-Wave (583) to be duplicated in succession to form Voltage Pulse Train (66 - 583a xxx 583n), as illustrated in (770) of Figure (8-1). Opposite negative Voltage Pulse Train (67 - 602a xxx 602n) is similarly formed since "Electron Clustering Effect" (631) of Figure (7-9) produces a "Negative Electrical Voltage Intensity (67) in equal magnitude to the "Positive Electrical Voltage Intensity (66) during each/repetitious magnetic pulsecycle (Rp/71). Remember, Secondary Voltage pickup coil (52) of Figure (7-8) displaces and separates Resonant Charging Chokes (56/62) on opposite end of said Secondary Pickup Coil (52).

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Electrically Interlinked serially together, Electron Bounce Phenomenon (EbP) , Voltage Coefficient of Inductance (Fll/F12), Voltage Coefficient of Capacitance (Cdl/Cd2), Voltage Coefficient of Resistance (Rsl/Rs2), and dielectric Coefficient of Water resistance (Re) allows Voltage Potential (Vo - Vn) of opposite electrical polarity to perform work (SS' _ 617 _ RR') without amp influxing '" thus, not allowing the introduction of electron flow into Hydrogen Fracturing Process (90) of Figure (5-5) during Voltage Stimulation (SS' - 617 _ RR') ... causing "electron clustering" (641a xxx 641n) to take place within Copper Wire Zone (52) during pulse ontime (Tl) ... inhibiting "electron flow" to maintain opposite voltage potential (66/E9 _ 67/E10) across Resonant Water Gap (616)

The resultant Dynamic Voltage Potential of Difference (opposite electrical attraction force) (SS' - 617 •... RR') is in balance phase of equal electrical intensity (66 = 67) of opposite polarity (positive electrical voltage potential _66 equals negative electrical Voltage potential 66 since the voltage Coefficient of Inductance (FL1/FL2), Voltage Coefficient of Capacitance (Cd1/Cd2), and voltage Coefficient of Resistance (Rs1/Rs2) across choke coils (L1/L2) are the same values ... allowing, Voltage Bounce Phenomenon (700) of Figure (7-9) to be preformed.

http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,1503.msg17582.html#msg17582

So here we have the coils design factors to get Voltage Bounce Phenomenon!
http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,2488.msg23224/topicseen.html#msg23224

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