Author Topic: Reactance/Resistance/Impedance VIC Coils - Correction 2016-01-14  (Read 19251 times)

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Re: Theory - Low Resistance is Preferable in VIC Coils [CORRECTED]
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2013, 00:25:39 am »
So, the thought of adding a resistor FEELS wrong to me.  Doing this requires EVEN HIGH voltage to get where you are going.

  Now, thinner wires, tighter coupling/winding of transformers.  These things FEEL right to me.


Who said anything about adding resistors?  If you are referring to the resistor in parallel with the cap, that is because a water cell is a lossy cap.  It's to represent the losses in a water cell.

Thin wire is used for high voltage only because high voltage usually means low current.  Thicker wires are for the benefit of current not voltage.  If you are not using high current, it is self defeating to use thick wire since it is much more expensive.

Also please  refer to http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,2527.msg24468.html#msg24468 for details on resistance and inductors/high voltage.

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Re: Theory - Low Resistance is Preferable in VIC Coils [CORRECTED]
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2013, 03:14:59 am »
Have another question...   applying signals to each electrode seperatley, is this in fact what we are doing and if so.. i would like to  also understand how that could possibly allow one or the other electrode to see its respective electrode as a high impedance as in referance to the last section of this page:

http://www.timedomaincvd.com/CVD_Fundamentals/plasmas/Cap_parameters.html

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Re: Theory - Low Resistance is Preferable in VIC Coils [CORRECTED]
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2013, 03:52:39 am »
Have another question...   applying signals to each electrode seperatley, is this in fact what we are doing and if so.. i would like to  also understand how that could possibly allow one or the other electrode to see its respective electrode as a high impedance as in referance to the last section of this page:

http://www.timedomaincvd.com/CVD_Fundamentals/plasmas/Cap_parameters.html

Does capacitive plasmas apply to our context?

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Re: Theory - Low Resistance is Preferable in VIC Coils [CORRECTED]
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2013, 05:16:13 am »
Have another question...   applying signals to each electrode seperatley, is this in fact what we are doing and if so.. i would like to  also understand how that could possibly allow one or the other electrode to see its respective electrode as a high impedance as in referance to the last section of this page:

http://www.timedomaincvd.com/CVD_Fundamentals/plasmas/Cap_parameters.html

Does capacitive plasmas apply to our context?




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mY Bad...   nevermind that ?

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Re: Theory - Low Resistance is Preferable in VIC Coils [CORRECTED]
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2013, 07:46:15 am »
I just wanna jump in this thread to mention that all Stan's research is based on the concept and testing that can be found in the documents "Electrically Induced Explosions in Water" which can be found here on my website http://www.globalkast.com/docs/Electrically_Induced_Explosions_in_Water.zip

Basically it says the cell has a very low resistance, usually less than 10 ohms. From what I can tell, they are charging the inductors and then allowing the stored energy to discharge into the cell.

Another thing you can also say is that the Secondary is in Parallel with the cell, but the Inductors are in Series with the cell...kinda like a series-parallel circuit.
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Re: Theory - Low Resistance is Preferable in VIC Coils [CORRECTED]
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2013, 13:49:49 pm »
to Tonywoodside.

i back to read birth of new tech book again,i found good things in wfc hydrogen gas management system.

about delrin, constant voltage across cell, pulse frequency, gate frequency, resonant of water molecule, longitudinal wave ,resonant action, ionization ,insulated housing ... etc. i never read it clearly,fast read and not interesting cause that is advance(i just need to know a basic).we must read it again!!!!

- about electrostatic filter assembly unit(440,figure 3-45)=purify water to delrin wfc.notice that pure water only to process resonant action in resonant cavity. read in section;Impurity Extraction Process!!!!!

Do you know about this part??
http://open-source-energy.org/forum/attachment.php?aid=3194

thanks
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Re: Theory - Low Resistance is Preferable in VIC Coils [CORRECTED]
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2013, 16:39:53 pm »
I just wanna jump in this thread to mention that all Stan's research is based on the concept and testing that can be found in the documents "Electrically Induced Explosions in Water" which can be found here on my website http://www.globalkast.com/docs/Electrically_Induced_Explosions_in_Water.zip

Basically is says the cell has a very low resistance, usually less than 10 ohms. From What I can tell, they are charging the inductors and then allowing the stored energy to discharge into the cell.

Another thing you can also say is that the Secondary is in Parallel with the cell, but the Inductors are in Series with the cell...kinda like a series-parallel circuit.

The cell being low resistance should be very difficult to charge then unless its resistance is enough to hold the charge back between the cell and the choke.    We want the choke to push the charge to the cell but we want the cell to hold as much of it as possible without it leaking across since, as we understand, the point is to use the voltage potential, not current, to cause the breakdown reaction.   But every test so far indicates that current is absolutely required to make this work. 

I'm getting frustrated. 

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Re: Theory - Low Resistance is Preferable in VIC Coils [CORRECTED]
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2013, 20:31:16 pm »
Yes TS,i also think that first you need a bit curent and then minimize it with tuning.I saw this on my miny vic,Stan also say this....see att.