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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #88 on: August 30, 2011, 16:57:58 pm »
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It's all experimental.  My hybrid rod vic works and makes gas.  ...now, for example, I added three iron wire spiral chokes in series to the negative side with an iron powder epoxy core and it bumped up to 2.2kv at 12v with 10ma.  I'll be trying the same rod type set up with an iron wire secondary soon enough and let ya know, dude.  The iron wire has an effect with many fewer turns and length of wire used compared to copper, that is well proven to my satisfaction.  Looks like I'll be using the hv probe from here. 
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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #91 on: September 03, 2011, 23:52:04 pm »
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The flyback core idea I tried last week.  They pop out nicely fromn old pc monitors and with two sections are easy to insert in a plastic tube.  I used iron wire single layer primary under a 30 gauge seven layer jumble secondary.  Today while at home I'm winding a single layer iron wire 8XA on a four inch iron powder store bought toroid.  I'll be trying to see the inverted waveforms with neg and pos sides that Tony mentions.  we'll see
 
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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #92 on: September 04, 2011, 00:21:44 am »
....iron wire & core properties didn't take long to get a discusion going at eda board, lol

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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #93 on: September 04, 2011, 00:57:46 am »
i understand the skineffects and thats why most coils are made from copper.
But i must agree on the fact that there is almost non info on iron coil inductors.
Thats pretty odd.....

Spintronic, illuminati, found something interesting.

I do have here some insulated iron wire, which i will compare with copper, on an electromagnet.
Just wanna see how different it behaves.... 8)

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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #94 on: September 04, 2011, 04:55:39 am »
Steve,
I am here to tell ya...  the iron powder core bifilar wound toroid I made today with single layer iron wire did not even come close to the gas production and hv ptp that a simple pc flyback gives with a single layer iron wire primary with a copper wire secondary jumble wound on top.  there is something going on here...
for example, the flyback core I made with seperate iron wound chokes on ferrite rods laying nearby in series produced 2600v at 12v ptp with 50ma compared to 250v ptp 12v 100ma with a toroid wound single layer 8XA fashion
experiments continue
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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #95 on: September 04, 2011, 09:25:47 am »
Steve,
I am here to tell ya...  the iron powder core bifilar wound toroid I made today with single layer iron wire did not even come close to the gas production and hv ptp that a simple pc flyback gives with a single layer iron wire primary with a copper wire secondary jumble wound on top.  there is something going on here...
for example, the flyback core I made with seperate iron wound chokes on ferrite rods laying nearby in series produced 2600v at 12v ptp with 50ma compared to 250v ptp 12v 100ma with a toroid wound single layer 8XA fashion
experiments continue
kb

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KB, the results you have of 2.6kv are done with a flyback core with the original secondairy in tackt and you wound just an iron primary?
Normally i wind just a couple of windings on such primary of a flyback.
How many turns did you do on the prim on that flyback?
And them just hooked up to a 3 inch tubeset?