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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #72 on: August 24, 2011, 01:39:47 am »

I will go over briefly what i have been saying on this thread.
By changeing the wire from copper to iron on meyers vic we get a very different effect.
Meyers vic is at its very basic 3 secondarys wired in series driven by a primary, if you go on a electronics forum and explain this can be made to give a full potential difference out while stopping the influx of current they will give you funny looks. No electronics design engineer will be able to build you such a device from meyers patents.
Could it be meyers vic as described in his patents has a fundemental floor?
What i have said is iron is unique in that each atom has a magnetic moment, that is each atom has a north and south pole. These atoms, or electron spin which gives this magnetism, can be manipulated by a external field. With this magnetic field each atom can be aligned to face each other north to south poles. They will then be attracted to each other giveing the effect know as electron clustering. In this state the influx of electrons into your circuit will be stopped.
 
Below is links showing us some basic physics involved, take the time to read the actual articles, you can start to pick out relevent information and piece together what i am saying.
We can see here how external fields affect electron spin.
 
When a piece of ferromagnetic material is placed into an external magnetic field, two things happen.
The spins in each domain shift so that the magnetic moments of the electrons become more aligned with the direction of the field.
Domains aligned with the field expand and take over regions previously occupied by domains aligned opposite to the field.
source http://electron9.phys.utk.edu/phys136d/modules/m7/material.htm
this covers permanent magnets but still has relevant information
 
"Instead, every electron is a tiny magnet due to its inherent magnetism (what we call electron spin).
Furthermore, the alignment of the electron spins makes a hunk of iron (magnetite) into a magnetic lodestone.
All atoms have electrons with electron spin and magnetic fields due to their orbits about the nucleus. But not all material is magnetic like the lodestone (ferromagnetic). If the electron spins of an atom's electrons are aligned oppositely, their magnetic fields cancel. That's what happens with tissue paper, flesh, or other non-ferromagnetic substances.
Each iron atom, on the other hand, has four electrons whose spin magnetism doesn't cancel. They line up. Aligned magnetic fields make matter magnetic.
Iron is a peculiar, remarkable substance. Its aligned-field electrons spontaneously couple and form small long-lasting domains. The spins inside these microscopic domains are almost perfectly aligned. Most domains, though, aren't aligned. In common un-magnetized iron, many domains are randomly oriented"
source http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/aprilholladay/2005-04-01-wonderquest_x.htm
Some materials are unsuitable like copper here it explains why
 
Since all matter is made up of atoms and all atoms have electrons that are in motion, do all atoms have magnetic fields?
The answer to this question is yes and no. All the electrons do produce a magnetic field as they spin and orbit the nucleus; however, in some atoms, two electrons spinning and orbiting in opposite directions pair up and the net magnetic moment of the atom is zero. Remember that the direction of spin and orbit of the electron determines the direction of the magnetic field. Electron pairing occurs commonly in the atoms of most materials. In the experiment you observed a helium atom showing two electrons spinning and orbiting around the protons and neutrons of the nucleus. The two electrons are paired, meaning that they spin and orbit in opposite directions. Since the magnetic fields produced by the motion of the electrons are in opposite directions, they add up to zero. The overall magnetic field strength of atoms with all paired electrons is zero.
source http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/HighSchool/Magnetism/electronpairing.htm
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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #73 on: August 24, 2011, 02:24:27 am »
This is pretty much the same thing I was explaining in my post on "My Thoughts on How Meyer Split Water". This also takes place with the water molecule since it acts as a ferromagnetic. As the molecule is exposed to an external magnetic field it will change the Spin-Spin and Proton-Proton of the molecule. The Electrons orbit the nucleus at different rates and spin directions. When its exposed to the polarized magnetic field, the spin-spin will flip and align (Polarize). When the spin-spins align, it will cause the molecule to go from "ground state" to a higher energy state (excitation state). This excitation state is when the ground state electrons will move up to the next orbital shell and cause the electrons to be ejected from their orbital shells up in to the conduction band. Stan even show this happening in his book "The Birth of New Technology" figure 5-3 labeled "Energy Pumping Action" page 125. If the magnetic field is applied for a long period of time you can strip off all the electrons, but if you only apply the field for a short time period the molecule will return to its ground state and release photon energy. This is why Stan says in one of his videos, pulse for XX amount of time and then gate and release hydrogen for 90 seconds with no power applied. during this 90 seconds is when the water molecule is recovering and going back to ground state and releasing the photon energy which is then putting more power into the system and splitting more hydrogen and oxygen.

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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #74 on: August 24, 2011, 06:43:20 am »
Hi Tony
"Energy Pumping Action" page 125 as Stan describes is done via electric field no magnetic field.
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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #75 on: August 24, 2011, 16:13:40 pm »
Hi Tony
"Energy Pumping Action" page 125 as Stan describes is done via electric field no magnetic field.
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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #76 on: August 24, 2011, 16:53:56 pm »
well, actually, page 127 does it better for me....
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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #77 on: August 25, 2011, 03:31:14 am »
@tony
yea spin orbit is being used in gas and liquids, possibly part of the chemical reaction in the injectors. what do you think about aligning electron spin in ferrous metals?
 
do people reading this understand electron spin? i dont know.
 
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What country are you from, just out of interest
 

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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #78 on: August 25, 2011, 07:28:52 am »
I'm from poland.
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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #79 on: August 28, 2011, 10:36:31 am »
Spintronic
If I wound primary coil  for example in four layers on the spool must be every layer be wound from left to right ? ( left right , left right , left right , left  right ) or can it be wound : ( left right , right left , left right , right left ) and of course all wound clockwise?
Must this rule of wound  be in use for made the secondary and two choke coils?
thank for your ansver
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