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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #64 on: August 23, 2011, 00:11:51 am »
@tony
 
you claim you have a working vic, is that meyers vic or your own design? what output are u getting from your wfc and what size engine can you run?
 
@kb
 
the dielectric tuned into is explained in this doc
http://www.scribd.com/doc/36927148/WFCexpl

 
meyer has said so many times his vic stops the influx of current, the video shows a phase shift, in order to get a phase shift current must lag behind voltage. there you go current is flowing in your circuit, but i am just repeating myself again.
 
if anyone wants to build the copper vic go ahead and knock yourself out but please post on one of the thousands of threads dedicated to it. I have had to many posts saying the copper vic is correct and not replying to any of my questions or points.
 
 
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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #65 on: August 23, 2011, 02:11:40 am »
spin,
 
thanks much for the reference, much obliged.
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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #66 on: August 23, 2011, 02:19:25 am »
spin, I've read that before from you but I need to read it about six more times...
do you believe that the iron wire chokes require perfect side by side wire wrapping or will a small bit of jumble be ok? I guess I'll find out.
I know, perhaps silly question but I'll need to build an apparatus to wind them as perfect as can be from what I'm experiencing by doing it from hand.
I have enough laminate strips left to build another vic with the iron wire.  Have you completed yours?
 
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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #67 on: August 23, 2011, 04:13:11 am »
secondary and chokes are wound as the vic matrix patent says (this i believe is the design for injectors) the reason i use this design is the primary can be removed without unwinding any other coils,secondary and chokes are not perfect but still work so not a critical winding. primary has to create a perfect magnetic field.
 
When a piece of ferromagnetic material is placed into an external magnetic field, two things happen.
The spins in each domain shift so that the magnetic moments of the electrons become more aligned with the direction of the field.
Domains aligned with the field expand and take over regions previously occupied by domains aligned opposite to the field.
source http://electron9.phys.utk.edu/phys136d/modules/m7/material.htm

if you align the spin orbit so each magnetic moment faces north to south they will attract to each other causeing electron clustering, thats why the primary magnetic field must give a perfect uniform field. we have physics to explain what is happening. reading and understanding now can save time later.
 
in doc wfcexplain it says the freedom of movement of hydroxyl ions in water gives the resonant frequency your vic needs to tune into. one of the choke coils needs to operate around this frequency range. so i guess a formula involving tubes and there size (capacitance) plus centre frequency used should give you the ideal choke value to wind. this is the resonance meyer talks about and it gives you the high gas yield.
 
throw a bit of physics and chemistry in and meyer nonsense goes away, do u not agree?
 
 i have wound a mini vic, it worked zero current out and split water with no gunk forming. the primary winding is a problem i need a easy way to wind it. its slowing me up.
 

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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #68 on: August 23, 2011, 05:09:12 am »
Tonywoodside,

Thank you for the video. I have a few questions though...

What causes the amplitude to modulate high and low?

How does the ac make it to the cap when the circuit
has a diode in it?

The reason why I am wondering is because I have
 built the circuit in multisim. I get ac across the cokes
and a step charging dc voltage across the water capacitor.
Seems to me the multisim version is working as it should, however
I must point out that multisim cannot replicate it exactly.

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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #69 on: August 23, 2011, 05:39:56 am »
hi hms776
 
your post is best put on tonys thread it is a little off topic here and muddles things, sorry to be a pain

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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #70 on: August 23, 2011, 08:42:24 am »
@Spintronic, please do not continue on bashing Tony, He is a very knowledgeable person that has done a lot to move the WF tech forward. You state you have build a vic and produced gas at zero amps. Why not show a video of your achievements and some proof you are right? I will (and i am sure a lot of others) make a deep bow for you if you're right ....

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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #71 on: August 23, 2011, 09:49:57 am »
there is little conversation between us, he does not reply to my questions or points, i have not been been rude or obnoxious its just he is haveing a one way conversation. infact to stay on topic for this thread overall is a struggle. is it to much to ask to stay on topic? i post a point or question if u are interested we discuss, you can do the same and we can have a conversation. the information i have posted is new i have yet to piece together pics and documents and a better understanding of the science, anyone who thinks they can help then please do.