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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #48 on: August 19, 2011, 18:35:02 pm »

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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #49 on: August 19, 2011, 21:00:47 pm »
@Andy, yea it looks to be parallel resonance between the L1 & L2 chokes.

@Kickbackemf, yea the shots are from the B+ and B- outputs to the plates/tubes. The VIC is wire up like Stan shows in his diagrams for the 5 coil VIC Transformer. I'm using a 2000 permeability ferrite core with 30ga. copper wire. Have you tried M27 laminates? Stan makes reference in his writings that it can be used for the 5 coil VIC Transformer.

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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #50 on: August 19, 2011, 21:49:17 pm »
Tony,
danka, wanted to be sure
I'll try to find some M27 material to work with.  Thanks for the tip from meyer's writings.  I've got some 28ga 1000' rolls to play with now.
 
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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2011, 23:34:36 pm »
@Andy, yea it looks to be parallel resonance between the L1 & L2 chokes.

@Kickbackemf, yea the shots are from the B+ and B- outputs to the plates/tubes. The VIC is wire up like Stan shows in his diagrams for the 5 coil VIC Transformer. I'm using a 2000 permeability ferrite core with 30ga. copper wire. Have you tried M27 laminates? Stan makes reference in his writings that it can be used for the 5 coil VIC Transformer.
@Tony
Initial Permeability ( ui ) of 2000 is a high value and should be better for magnetic fields. Mine is 40. What is your core Saturation Flux Density ( B s ). Mine is 2300 Gauss. Residual Flux Density ( B r ) is 800 Gauss.
I'm using ferrite bars shape and glue them together so total specs are changed.
I also had same shape B+, B- signals, but not above/below +550Vmax and -560Vmin on a regular capacitor.

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I tested laminated core and it didn't work, gave low voltage. Core is saturated too fast. Should go for ferrite core.

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Thanks for the video. 8)
I'm curious, will you give detail specs of that used core material?

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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2011, 23:50:38 pm »
@webmug, I'm not sure of all the specs, I'll have to get that info for ya.

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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #53 on: August 20, 2011, 00:31:27 am »
@tony
 
it is impossible to give the wfc full voltage with no measurable <10uA current with the circuit u describe.
 
to form a magnetic field in L1 current must flow into the wfc then threw L2 back into secondary. no resonance or fancy windings/magnetic fields or techno talk can hide this. current will flow into the wfc and the cell becomes useless whatever you do. today i went out and counted the number of meyer water powered cars available, it was none.
i am sorry to bring the bad news after 4 years of trying to get it to work but copper wire is no good, i have explained why,i have explain what needs to be done to get meyers vic working, i have given you the science.
 
can we get back on track is everyone agreed the secondary and choke coils must be iron wire?
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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #54 on: August 20, 2011, 04:23:18 am »
Spintronics,
1000 words...
the camera flash whited out the thin bubbles but they are there
used fine iron filings with epoxy core, 1000' 28ga secondary and chokes, unknown scrap primary, all copper
my iron wire will show up someday and I'll give that a try...
Tony,  I can't seem to find the way to get the inverted phases on b+ and b- on my scope
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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #55 on: August 20, 2011, 04:53:00 am »
@kb
if current runs through your cell it will not work, u will get hydrolisis
 
@andy
the resonance refered to is explained here
http://www.scribd.com/doc/36927148/WFCexpl
the charge choke has to work in the frequency range of your cell for high gas yield , thats my understanding. it will still produce gas out of resonance. resonance has nothing to do with current restriction.
can u give me a idea of your setup.