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Re: My Thoughts on how Meyer split water
« Reply #64 on: July 25, 2011, 18:21:46 pm »
Tony, you have a very interesting theory, I have a few questions, isn't your theory saying that their is one frequency for achieving what we want? What happens when the capacitance changes and the pll changes the frequency for electrical resonance? wouldn't that mean that the circuit would no longer be providing the proper signals to effect h20 as you are proposing?

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Re: My Thoughts on how Meyer split water
« Reply #65 on: July 25, 2011, 20:07:42 pm »
Two resonances are taking place here. 1) The smaller AM signals are to match the resonance of the electrons of the molecule. 2) The larger and slower AM signal modulates the smaller AM signals to higher voltages and what this does is setup the resonance of the Nuclear Magnetic Relaxation (NMR) cycle of the proton water which is approximately 3 secs. You can also use subharmonics of the NMR cycle which would be around 0.5 Hz & 0.25 Hz
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Interesting scope shot! Gives me a headache how it must be tuned on the water molecule.

@Dave
Tony pointed us to the info on the theory what mostly already written in a book.
If you read "Puharich ELF Magnetic Model of Matter and Mind" book, you can look it up too.

The interesting link Tony gave was the choke part, that also isn't written in that book. Notice that Puharich didn't label a tunable choke in the circuit.

I'm "thinking" that the frequency of the second resonance is always shifting with the first resonance but the frequencies are so high (GHz), generated from the sidebands, and do not disturb the water molecule resonance when the water dielectric properties change the first resonance.  8) The dielectric properties have most effect on the "voltage amplitude" when out of resonance it is fluctuating. But the PLL is fast enough to lock on resonance. The water molecule never sees this drift because it moves so fast. The water-gap size is fixed so only the choke and water dielectric properties could effect resonance and is adjusted by the PLL.

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Questions:
1) When the frequency isn't on the first resonance, is there always AM modulation signal?
2) Do we only see the step-charge signal of the second resonance which is harmonic of the first resonance, because choke inductance differences?
3) The NMR time is the second resonance which is harmonic of the first resonance time. The gate frequency is generating "resonant action" or "phonon effect" and is directly related to the size of the water-gap.
4) Sidebands (fc-sb) and (fc+sb) strength is the peak to peak difference between top and bottom sine waves in the AM wave? So what adjusts the (fc-sb) and (fc+sb) bandwidth and strength. Chokes /gate freq.?
5) Do the sidebands shift left or right width the (first resonance frequency) fc center frequency?
6) Where do we tune into, dielectric properties of water (LCL) and/or the correct amplitude and/or sideband frequency and/or water-gap size?

If someone can elaborate these questions...

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Re: My Thoughts on how Meyer split water
« Reply #66 on: July 25, 2011, 23:21:33 pm »
Well I had a guy on YouTube to answer my question correctly. HHOiseparator answered saying, "The purpose of giving the coils of different values is to pulsed the inner and outer tube pair with different frequencies. The coil with the higher value will lower the pulsed frequency? and the coil with the lower value will higher the pulsed frequency."  There ya go! That's the answer I was looking for! =) When you pulse the LC circuit at a given frequency, the different value inductors will change the frequency to give rise to an AM wave like I have? shown in one of my videos. For example, if the circuit is pulsed at the resonant frequency of the L1 & Cell value, the frequency between L1 & the cell will be the same as the pulsed frequency. The frequency between L2 & Cell will be a different frequency from the pulsed frequency!!!

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Re: My Thoughts on how Meyer split water
« Reply #67 on: July 26, 2011, 01:13:52 am »
think of this LCL circuit as a Filter circuit. You have a resonant frequency for L1 and the Cell, that will be your driving frequency. This driving frequency will be the same at the output of the L1 inductor, but the driving frequency modified by the L2 inductor to give a higher frequency. For example, Lets use Stan inductor values: L1 = 1262.7 mH, L2 = 1138 mH, and the calculated value for the cell is around 877nF. So the resonant frequency for L1 and C = 4785 Hz. This will give rise to the HV's in the LC circuit, which will modulate the signal of L2. The L2 frequency with the driving frequency of 4785 Hz will be modified to a frequency of 5038 Hz. So now you have two frequencies being applied to the cell, 4.785kHz and 5.038kHz. These two frequencies will form a Modulated AM signal.
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Re: My Thoughts on how Meyer split water
« Reply #68 on: July 26, 2011, 14:02:58 pm »
@Tony
Oh my, this is great!
When SM had a threshold voltage, say. 1k5 volts and the sidebands are correct (say. fc +253Hz and fc -253Hz), then he had "resonant action" If voltage is low and side band frequency doesn't match then no "resonant action".

why?

Because just like Puharich said: when he had the voltage high enough on the device he measured high EM frequency wave from the device.
Should the high EM wave be tuned into the water-gap size? This gap size is say 2mm then the wavelength is in the GHz.
To make it more clear, it are the side band signals that generate EM waves to pull "pump" the water molecule apart and not the carrier frequency!

Also note that Keely used low freq to generate high frequency to manipulate molecular and atomic structures.

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Re: My Thoughts on how Meyer split water
« Reply #69 on: July 26, 2011, 14:34:30 pm »
Yes webmug, this is the reason for the train of impulses. Each pulse adds to the force field... And when the field collapses particle impact generate energy. The frequency is directly related to the voltage.


Tony you want every increasing amplitude not modulated. It must stop suddenly at the peak otherwise the field will counteract reducing the impact. Otherwise the only resonant action that can happen will be of the bigger ions gaining and losing electrons thru relaxation process..


Fire is a chemical laser, If you can enhance the energy of the laser by increasing the exited state, the same happens in the chemical laser medium so the gain will be in thermal explosive energy cause you cause particle impact of greater intensity. This is where the safe atomic energy can come from.
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Re: My Thoughts on how Meyer split water
« Reply #70 on: July 26, 2011, 20:38:15 pm »
If the capacitance value changes, then the scanning circuit will lock back on to the resonant frequency. There's a certain ratio for the inductors, so if the resonant frequency does change, the sidebands will stay constant due to the ratio. Puharich gives this ratio in his book as the 12th root of 2 ( 1.059463094 ). I've calculate Stan's inductors based on this ratio and for his capacitance of 67nF, the resonant frequency is 547 Hz with L1 = 1263.5mH and L2 = 1125.7mH....This will make the two frequencies at the cell be 547 Hz and 579.5263124 Hz....579.5263124/547 = 1.059463094.  For example, say the capacitance changes from 67nF to 60nF, the resonant frequency will now be 578 Hz... so the two frequencies will be changed to 578 Hz and 612.71 Hz....578/612.71..Hz = 1.059463094...So the ratio for the sidebands will stay constant.

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Re: My Thoughts on how Meyer split water
« Reply #71 on: July 26, 2011, 23:23:08 pm »
If the capacitance value changes, then the scanning circuit will lock back on to the resonant frequency. There's a certain ratio for the inductors, so if the resonant frequency does change, the sidebands will stay constant due to the ratio. Puharich gives this ratio in his book as the 12th root of 2 ( 1.059463094 ). I've calculate Stan's inductors based on this ratio and for his capacitance of 67nF, the resonant frequency is 547 Hz with L1 = 1263.5mH and L2 = 1125.7mH....This will make the two frequencies at the cell be 547 Hz and 579.5263124 Hz....579.5263124/547 = 1.059463094.  For example, say the capacitance changes from 67nF to 60nF, the resonant frequency will now be 578 Hz... so the two frequencies will be changed to 578 Hz and 612.71 Hz....578/612.71..Hz = 1.059463094...So the ratio for the sidebands will stay constant.
So if we use this 12th root of 2 ratio between chokes we can always "tune in" the structure of the water molecule (phonon vibrations between four vertices) because of the side band results on the center frequency.

The LCL circuit should give high voltage on resonance and the side band is tuned (12th root of 2 ratio) with L1 and L2 chokes.

Looks like we redefined SM his famous words: "tuning into the dielectric properties of water"?

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