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Re: Resonance WFC measurements
« Reply #64 on: February 25, 2012, 19:56:25 pm »
So I see Russ has finally caught up with me and Don and gotten the same waveform with the 180* phase shift.

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Re: Resonance WFC measurements
« Reply #65 on: February 25, 2012, 20:05:33 pm »
So I see Russ has finally caught up with me and Don and gotten the same waveform with the 180* phase shift.
Well I do not know him, but he also shares his stuff and that is great!

Looks like scope probe GND won't effect the VIC output signal. He also has WFC cells, wondering what will happen if he connected one. 8)

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Re: Resonance WFC measurements
« Reply #66 on: February 26, 2012, 00:44:09 am »
Yeah, he hasn't told me to much about tests with his cell hooked up. Just with the leads floating. I'm sure we will see.

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« Reply #67 on: February 26, 2012, 03:48:07 am »
That's just it. You can get these measurements with dry cells, unterminated leads, and capacitors. All instances include a dielectric... Other than water... These results should prove one of Stan's theories. "The pulse and charge status of the water/capacitor never passing through an arbitrary ground."

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« Reply #68 on: February 26, 2012, 04:44:53 am »
"The pulse and charge status of the water/capacitor never passing through an arbitrary ground."

From what I understand by Stan talking about the arbitrary ground, is that the LC circuit should not be grounded at all. It should be totally isolated.

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Re: Resonance WFC measurements
« Reply #69 on: February 26, 2012, 05:34:25 am »
I think Tony is right about the VIC and a ground....The VIC is not meant to be grounded (at least the 5 coil VIC).

If you put 100V to a load with one side grounded you will have +100V at one side and the other side will be 0V.
If you do not ground the load you have +100V at one side and -100 at the other...The one which is not grounded has twice the voltage across it.

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« Reply #70 on: February 26, 2012, 07:09:27 am »
What you guys are talking about sounds right on theoreticly but the water capacitor just doesn't seem to function like a real capacitor. If you place a ground where Stan shows without a resister you will not only lose your voltage on the L2 side but the voltage on the L1 side will be drastically decreased. As for getting a unipolar pulse from the resonance between L1 and the water capacitor, it makes sense because of the diode but that's just not what I see with the water capacitor. Getting the signals correct on the scope without the leads hooked up or with a normal capacitor is just not the same as when your using the water cap. Maybe all these thoughts are in the right direction but I think we really need to focus on getting the correct waveforms across the water cap and addressing the issues that are stopping us from doing so. These are just my opinions and what I have seen. If you guys think I'm wrong please correct me with your work and experiences.

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Re: Resonance WFC measurements
« Reply #71 on: February 26, 2012, 13:54:45 pm »
What you guys are talking about sounds right on theoreticly but the water capacitor just doesn't seem to function like a real capacitor. If you place a ground where Stan shows without a resister you will not only lose your voltage on the L2 side but the voltage on the L1 side will be drastically decreased. As for getting a unipolar pulse from the resonance between L1 and the water capacitor, it makes sense because of the diode but that's just not what I see with the water capacitor. Getting the signals correct on the scope without the leads hooked up or with a normal capacitor is just not the same as when your using the water cap. Maybe all these thoughts are in the right direction but I think we really need to focus on getting the correct waveforms across the water cap and addressing the issues that are stopping us from doing so. These are just my opinions and what I have seen. If you guys think I'm wrong please correct me with your work and experiences.
That's a good thing to do focussing on the waveform.
Question: Stans cavity was pressurized and heated? water was circulated between the wfc gap with a pump.
Is this a good thing to consider, create water flow through the wfc to get improvements with this waveform?
I guess someone has tested this with waterflowing, what will happen to the voltage at a cell?

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