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Re: Resonance WFC measurements
« Reply #48 on: February 22, 2012, 23:15:28 pm »
And what is the dielectric material between the two plates inside the HV capacitor you are using?

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Re: Resonance WFC measurements
« Reply #49 on: February 23, 2012, 07:29:49 am »
Just curious, do you get the desired waveform from the cell being dry or without water in it?
Waveform above from 1nf HV 10kV capacitor.
Cell was submerged in tap-water no waveform.

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Yea thats the same problem I've been running into lately. The cell when in contact with water has been causing a dead short condition. The only time that I haven't got this dead short condition is when I get resonance using the 8XA circuit with my modified MOT which I used as the chokes. The cell actually acts like a capacitor and charges to very high voltages.

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Re: Resonance WFC measurements
« Reply #50 on: February 23, 2012, 13:28:21 pm »
And what is the dielectric material between the two plates inside the HV capacitor you are using?
1000pF 10KV High Voltage Capacitor HV Tesla Coil Ham

HV Polypropylene Capacitor
Dielectric Constant 1.5
http://www.asiinstr.com/technical/Dielectric%20Constants.htm

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Re: Resonance WFC measurements
« Reply #51 on: February 23, 2012, 15:51:50 pm »
Just curious, do you get the desired waveform from the cell being dry or without water in it?
Waveform above from 1nf HV 10kV capacitor.
Cell was submerged in tap-water no waveform.

Br,
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Yea thats the same problem I've been running into lately. The cell when in contact with water has been causing a dead short condition. The only time that I haven't got this dead short condition is when I get resonance using the 8XA circuit with my modified MOT which I used as the chokes. The cell actually acts like a capacitor and charges to very high voltages.
Hi Tony,

So what are the differences between resonance VIC and 8xA coils, causing not a dead short condition? ???

Got any ideas? Core material magnetic field (chokes) restrict current more effective in your 8xA circuit?

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Re: Resonance WFC measurements
« Reply #52 on: February 23, 2012, 16:09:03 pm »
And what is the dielectric material between the two plates inside the HV capacitor you are using?
1000pF 10KV High Voltage Capacitor HV Tesla Coil Ham

HV Polypropylene Capacitor
Dielectric Constant 1.5
http://www.asiinstr.com/technical/Dielectric%20Constants.htm

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And what is the dielectric constant of air?

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Re: Resonance WFC measurements
« Reply #53 on: February 23, 2012, 16:22:44 pm »
And what is the dielectric material between the two plates inside the HV capacitor you are using?
1000pF 10KV High Voltage Capacitor HV Tesla Coil Ham

HV Polypropylene Capacitor
Dielectric Constant 1.5
http://www.asiinstr.com/technical/Dielectric%20Constants.htm

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And what is the dielectric constant of air?
I have no idea, enlighten us.

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Re: Resonance WFC measurements
« Reply #54 on: February 23, 2012, 19:21:07 pm »
The 8xa is the only replication which is charging the cell to a high voltage because it makes the
correct waveform which is a result of the full wave rectification.

You cannot charge a capacitor  to a high voltage with ac, and that is the problem we are all having with the 5 coil vic.


Webmug, the vic being a pulse transformer is what I have also figured out.
And this is where the problems start. Pulsing a coil with a square wave and getting
a square wave out takes precise engineering and coil design knowledge. If even one parameter
of the coil is incorrect the coil will output ac. This is why replication is so difficult.
The vic is an adaptation of a D.C. resonant charging circuit!

BTW-WHAT DOES PAGE 1-1 OF THE TECH BRIEF CALL THE VIC?
-A PULSING TRANSFORMER

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Re: Resonance WFC measurements
« Reply #55 on: February 23, 2012, 19:28:05 pm »
wish that what you are saying is true HMS