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Re: Stanley Modular Project
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2011, 23:06:59 pm »
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I would like to know how to be able to adjust the alternated pulses width to be able to give a little time with no pulse or a kind of delay for he sake of clarity. But i think this is over the needs of the circuit.


This logic circuit mixes the two signals to create alternate frequency for driving two mosfets on the inverter stage driving the primary on the secondary the signal is rectified to create unipolar pulse shape witch in turn goes to the vic.


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Re: Stanley Modular Project
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2011, 08:58:38 am »
I would like to know what you think about my pulse shaping network. I think that is one of meyer secrets, he never shown how to make the unipolar pulse train all electronically. In the patent he show but only control the gate time being the pulses fixed frequency. He only show in his drawings the type of pulse coming into the transformers. And is most of the time unipolar pulse trains.


I only found info about anyone trying this in this same site on discussions made with kinesis film. But i think he didn't went to much ahead with this.


I have a good felling. In the simulation it works. I wish i could have the circuits made by a professional especially for me. Anyway i'm using all my knowledge to try achieving the effect. I really think that this unipolar pulse helps the amp restriction as is creates a magnetic field over the electrons traveling in opposite directions on the chokes so this extra field should increase the effect. I also thought of winding up coils around permanent magnets of different shapes.


Another thing is that i think that in the inverter section would be good to use instead of mosfets bipolar transistors cause its easier to control the or limit the current. I think is also possible to do with mosfets but is not much clear for me how without increasing too much the losses. I would like for example to limit the current to 2 amps doesn't matter what voltage i apply on the primary. 


Is really boring to keep talking alone, i would appreciate if you discuss with me guys.


ps i think that i solved the problem of my pll circuit turning off some times, i think it has to do with the resistor between the 5pin and ground. I connected directly to the ground and now is more stable. I think that on the dive by ten counters also a resistor should be used but i'm not sure where.


I think i'm going to get a new fast prototype board for easy developing the circuit. I have some chips around here.


I would like to make also test circuits to know if my Ic's are working well. I have like 50 Ic's of different types here. I wish i could have the ability of doing everything i think. = ) 


 

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Re: Stanley Modular Project
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2011, 09:12:20 am »
I think that the way to do with mosfets is creating a voltage divider to lower the voltage on the gate of the mosfet. I think that i'm going to use a 100 ohm resistor from the mosfet driver to the gate and a 1k variable resistor between the source and the gate.


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Re: Stanley Modular Project
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2011, 10:27:05 am »
This simulation makes clear how matching impedance transformation maximizes the power transmission. This is very important. I would like to know how to calculate the impedance for unipolar pulses. I'm not sure if will be the same way cause would be like a 99% duty cycle pulse. Maybe should go for the time constant... ?)

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Re: Stanley Modular Project
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2011, 02:03:11 am »
In the simulations seems to me that if there is a capacitance between the chokes and they are conducting the current in the same direction, the chokes resonate causing a ac current, however because of the blocking diode the voltage on the capacitor remains dc. The coupling must be low between the coils to become wider the band of the resonance. 1nf capacitor seems to help connecting the two extremities of the bif coil (after the diode before the coil (not in series)).  Simulating interwinding capacitance.


It seems that if the impedance matches the voltages get high and amps low.


This lead me to think that maybe the interwinding capacitance have a role in the game. Or at least if there isn't additional could be used to balance.


But i'm seeing how important is the unipolar pulse. The important is that the core don't saturate or remain permanently magnetized. THis is important cause if the flux remain than it wont vary applying a new pulse because of saturation.


The impedance is very important. To be able to transfer the power well from the battery thru the pulse shaper and the vic...


If for example the transformer inductance is too high than there will be not enough current to supply high voltage to the water. If too small wont supply the ideal impednace to the load =.


 

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Re: Stanley Modular Project
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2011, 04:05:55 am »
I was thinking about how to make the water forced into the tube by a pump but the pump also must be electrically insulated from ground to prevent amp leakage from ground electrons into the water bath.
I think the electron extraction will be needed whatever is the pulse. Cause this will weaken the bound electrical attraction within the atoms of water molecules.


By creating a positive field will increase the positive charge of the hydrogen atom, this makes it to keep  its electron in its orbit thus weakening the bound, switching off like stan said, than you just need to perturb it creating a further field to create a dc field with an oscillating ac current.


I'm thinking here would stainless steel wire survive 2500° without oxidizing or breaking?


I'm thinking to make a brute experiment.


To provide high current in a cell with sodium hydroxide from a battery but make all this isolated from ground and having a heating element red hot having around it a copper tube than high voltage positive will be applied to the copper tube in relation to the filament. I think that this will help the emission of the electrons from the heating element thus giving to the water an ever increasing positive charge (missing electrons) Thus a change in the production of gas might be noticed or in the quality of the gases coming out of the water.


I'm thinking in ways to get around of the electrons, i thought that i could discharge them on the ground but how?


Is about electrostatic charge that i'm talking about.


Maybe if the ground is big enough is much easier to get more electrons from the water because it can take electrons into it and still become neutral.



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Re: Stanley Modular Project
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2011, 11:33:05 am »
"{ By creating a positive field will increase the positive charge of the hydrogen atom, this makes it to keep  its electron in its orbit thus weakening the bound, switching off like stan said, than you just need to perturb it creating a further field to create a dc field with an oscillating ac current. } "

would a pair of magnets placed on the feed line to the electrolyser provide the positive field u require?

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Re: Stanley Modular Project
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2011, 13:42:46 pm »
I think would help induce in the atoms some electromagnetic energy yes but i believe that is not enough.


I was thinking here, all we need to do is to charge the water up to a million volts and than simply apply alternating or dc current of low power into the water. The only thing we need is a container that support such voltage. The bigger the surface of the container in relation to the amount of water will give the charge that we will have in the water.


So basically an acrylic tube having inside a pair of tubes and than another acrylic tube inside of the inner tube. Than on the inside of the inner acrylic tube goes something ( a metal) to form a capacitance from inside to the outside tube and other something on the outside of the outer acrylic tube also to form a capacitance but this relative to the inner tube.


This way we have two independent electric fields in the water. No current can flow. 


Than between the tubes goes the vic.


Maybe the negative field can be ignored.


So we leave on the water a high positive charge, whenever the gas will be generated from this water, it will be released ionized certainly.


Water as the source of the electrons.