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Re: Everything works!!! in theory
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2011, 05:40:29 am »
Update, I am having construction issues that maybe someone here can help with. As this is only a test cell I am looking for proving a concept not trying to win any cell building awards.


With a single cell i had exposed wire wrapped around the external tube and a split pin spread out with a wire connected to make the connection to the inner tube. This worked fine for a single cell. Now i need to connect all of them in parallel. This will also need to be encased in the water container. NOw here lies the issue, all exposed connections must be "contained" within their alloted fields (in other words no direct lines between opposing charges, as this causes leakage and an unreliable connection. if the connecting wires are too long the measurable capacitance is not stable.


I am trouble shooting some ideas but i keep running into too much leakage or the capacitance isn't stable enough to work with. Any ideas here would be nice, at this stage i am considering a water tight base and running the connections through there. this will require more construction time then i would of hopped for.

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Re: Everything works!!! in theory
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2011, 05:25:48 am »
Understanding your process prior to implementing it is a big thing i am pushing here. I would like anyone following my work to look at and read the "how" of the following 2 electronic circuits,
1. LC resonance (or LCR) - this is interesting and where I am building now.
2. Buck-Boost Circuit - Inductor - DIODE - Cap - back to inductor.


Now in these examples it talks about inductors as a separate entity, the secondary in a transformer can be used as an inductor, except its magnetic field can be "created" by the primary charging.
No. 2 above has started the explanation to the use of the diode in Stans patent. My only question is to the why??? as No.1 is more efficient in obtaining what he is talking about. Also with number 2 the "resonant" frequency is more a math based on the inductance of your secondary over the application of the circuit.


Number 1 cannot resonant with a diode in the mix as it requires the circuit to oscillate.


Update to my previous post,
I am making a new frequency controller over a new cell. i hope that this will fix my problem.

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Re: Everything works!!! in theory
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2011, 07:51:33 am »
Understanding your process prior to implementing it is a big thing i am pushing here. I would like anyone following my work to look at and read the "how" of the following 2 electronic circuits,
1. LC resonance (or LCR) - this is interesting and where I am building now.
2. Buck-Boost Circuit - Inductor - DIODE - Cap - back to inductor.
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Number 1 cannot resonant with a diode in the mix as it requires the circuit to oscillate.
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Well the VIC will resonate with the blocking diode in the circuit, check my thread.

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Re: Everything works!!! in theory
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2011, 07:56:02 am »
Web,
The VIC is different to the 2 advised circuits.
Also you may find that there is frequencies that work better with the Buck boost as they work in harmony with the permeability of the inductance core. If that is what is happening with your VIC resonance you will find that you can adjust the duty cycle and your resonant frequency will change.

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Re: Everything works!!! in theory
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2011, 06:50:39 am »
Well an update to how things are progressing,
Understanding the whole process of resonating a circuit is more than knowing the frequency! Stans pick-up coil I now understand a possible purpose and system of use! but his location (well as per these forums understanding) is a little less accurate then i would use... the pick up coil is to measure timing of when the resonant pulse "should" fire. I am trying to figure out a circuit that will work the way i want.


Simple method would be a set of pick ups from the primary and a set from the pick up. The idea would be if the Primary is + before the pickup is, you need to slow the frequency if the pick up is + before the primary you need to speed it up. So a small circuit will need to be designed to adjust the resistance of the 2 resistors on the 555 Square wave.


Thats all very well and good, we know we need a pick up. Well i thought i would let you all in on this as you will need to place the pick up coil near your secondary/ies as you want it to pick up the resonant cycle time as soon as it hits your secondary. 


I hope this helps people out if they are looking at circuit resonance.