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Stanley's water fuel injector and the gas ionization process...
« on: February 10, 2008, 03:19:56 am »
Can anyone describe this step where he ionizes gas??
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Re: Stanley's water fuel injector and the gas ionization process...
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2008, 03:36:24 am »
He calls it the High frequency pulsing laser ass'y (light energy)

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Re: Stanley's water fuel injector and the gas ionization process...
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2008, 11:41:33 am »
My 25 cents idea of the laserarray is that stan was shooting or adding photons particles into the water.

I can explain, but i am still on holiday and still typing on my nokia e61i cellphone...

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Re: Stanley's water fuel injector and the gas ionization process...
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2008, 04:40:06 am »
This is from Memo 3 of http://merlib.org/
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The part I'm interested in is where the ambient air travels through the "Gas Processor" and becomes ionized.

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Re: Stanley's water fuel injector and the gas ionization process...
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2008, 21:35:40 pm »
I think he used LED's on the recirculated air to re-charge the air particles.
So basically he is pulsing LED's within a voltage zone while the air is being run through the intake further destablizing the air ready to get ignited again.

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Re: Stanley's water fuel injector and the gas ionization process...
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2009, 00:23:45 am »
Hi all,

Sometimes i cut and past some stuff from other forums into Ionizationx.
Here is some writings of H2power, who was once a member here.
His theory is that the ionized ambient air from the intake is taking watervapour apart into the hydrogen/oxygen components.
I think its worth reading.

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You will find that the Gas Processor is hooked up in reverse on one of the patents, the negetive got put on the inside electrod when it is supposed to be on the outside electrod, and note where the voltage fields are. Stanley Meyer also didn't show the EEC, so for those that can't figure that one out, it goes just after the gas processor too consume freshly ejected electrons.

Here is a video giving an idea what is going on inside of the Gas Processor: YouTube - Lec 10 | MIT 6.013 Electromagnetics and Applications, Fall 2





Gauss all that is needed is atomized water mist that has been given a positive charge, ionized oxygen atoms, and recirculated exhuast gases. The WFC is not needed. The job of Stanley Meyer's injectors was to give the water mist a positive charge, and to bypass any vehical's fuel system. The steam resonators job is to keep the water at near boiling point aproximently 90 degrees same as in the video show here: http://video.google.com/videosearch?...=4&ct=title #

The VIC is just a transformer there is no magic in it, it is just a type of transformer that is not commonly built it relies on capacitive reactance too develope its high voltage same as in some of the police zap guns. The blocking diodes job is to double the voltage in the capacitors voltage zones since the Gas Processor is also a capacitor. The electron extraction ciruict provides a postive mesh screen positioned just after the gas processors voltage zone and consumes the freshly stripped electrons before they can form ozone, remember like charges repel and unlike charges attract. The mesh screen is positive and the electrons are negetive, the intake systems gas speeds take care of the rest.

It is the oxygen that is breaking down the water molecule. We all know that it takes 1836kJ/mol to break the bonds of the water molecule, right? The oxygen has been stripped of electrons, and in Stanley Meyer's case, to it's fourth ionization level that has an energy content of 7469.2 kJ/mol. This is far more energy needed to break the bonds of the water molecule. Everyone keeps looking for some form of magic when there is none.

Since Meyer says he used the 4th energy level or lower lets look at that reaction.
The new reaction to form the water molecule at the 4th energy level:
2 H-H bonds 872 kJ/mol and 1 O=O bond 7469.2 kJ/mol are formed yeilding 8341.2 kJ/mol. The net sum of the reaction now is 8341.2-1836 = +6505.2 kJ/mol.
Can you see the reaction now? In the reaction just shown the energy to break the bonds of the water molecule has been subtracted(1836kJ/mol) from the energy content of the ionized oxygen atoms. These are energy content calculations, and it is good to note that gasoline has an energy content of only 495kJ/mol. This is how Stanley Meyer was able to run an 1.6L engine with an hho production rate of only 7L/min.. The energy content is far greater than that of gasoline, more than 13 times greater.

The injectors are not what they appear to be, they are giving the water mist a positive charge and mixing that water mist with ionized air gases and recirculate exhaust gases, then spark ignited. Again no magic here just a simple ionic reaction taking place. I am not going to let someone come in here and give information that will not work. I put science and math to the works of Stanley Meyer, showed where the energy was really coming from, and it is something everyone can sink their teeth into. It is not a magic show it is something real.

I just hope and pray that everyone can see what has been done here. Energy independence is now ours for the taking





Build the Gas Processor for starters and as you start to study on what is needed this video shows two parts of the Gas Processor the positive and negetive voltage zones: YouTube - Lec 10 | MIT 6.013 Electromagnetics and Applications, Fall 2

More information on the Gas Processor see the attatchment for the injectors: Stanley Meyer: Water Electrolysis -- Canadian Patent # 2067735 -- Water Fule Injection System
Then you will have to find an injector system that you can add in a high positive voltage zone to give the water mist a negetive charge same princable as a Taylor cone or Lord Kevins water battery YouTube - Walter Lewin Makes a Battery out of Cans and Water .

Follow Stanley Meyer on this one, though at this point the whole process became too simple, for he got rid of the WFC, but he kept everyone thinking that he did not, and he started missleading everyone for patent protection purposes. The Gas Gun shows a gas processor that is worth copying.

If you look at the patent and take a good look at the injectors you will notice that he says it is an isolated circuit yet it is bolted right to the head of the engine. The water injectors are not little WFC's they are to give the water molecules a charge, mix all of the need componets(ionized air gases, recirculated exhaust gases, and atomized water mist), and spark ignite it. The whole set up bypasses any vehicals existing fuel system and computer controls, but it is not the only way to get the job done. For what Stanley Meyer was trying to do it worked perfectly.

All three needed items can be delivered seperatly as you have already guessed(atomized water mist, ionized air gases, and recirculated exhuast gases). Then it becomes a trick to find which type of vehicals fuel system works well for this. Now Guass has it also right, you can get the job done with hho, but then you have to make sure that the hho mixture will never back flash for if it does with this much energy content there goes the intake system of the engine, gasous injectors are the safest route to go like that. Not sure how much hho will be needed to, but follow Stanley Meyer's lead and shoot for a pressurized system that maintains the hho at 15 psi or so.

I am for the water mist since that way is simplest and safest. And any water source can be used since it will be the ionized air gases breaking down the water molecules, and not some form of electronlysis. All of the frequency stuff can be found in the patent from 10k-50k Hz and Meyer gives his reasoning. When you let the ionized oxygen atoms break down the water molecule the whole system get very easy, do your homework and you will see  .

Well, I hope that helps,

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Re: Stanley's water fuel injector and the gas ionization process...
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2009, 01:06:52 am »
I think he is totally absurd still arguing about this , he is partly right , but the delivery system is not the same between the buggy method and the injector method . One is more simple than the other .

What if the "resonant cell" dissapears , how modified will the schematic be , what will be in charge of the "hydrogen fracturing process" ... the injector

this is page 119-121 of the international independant report

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Re: Stanley's water fuel injector and the gas ionization process...
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2009, 01:28:54 am »
i allways figured it allowed for posive ozone to steal electrons during the electron extraction going on in the injector  since it doesnt have a chance to hit a high potential positive field singularly without negative while leaveing the injector.. it would be hard for the stainless injector to take in electrons i think due to its resistivety.. especialy in a on and off pulse environment...
you must understand stan wasnt ranting voltage potenital seperates water if it was the ozone.
the most important thing he says about creating more energy then ever thought of is the measly little protons.. when oxys steals hydros electron it makes it a proton and static ignition happens the hydrogen trys to join oxy but cant.. so hydrogen  is going nuts either until it can find a electron to balance itself out .. i think stan forgot to mention it was turning to helium myself.  like what the sun does to hydrogen.   i bet if you asked someone that works daily in physics they would say its impossible to pull hydrogen's electron off...

you are creating a ignition that requires more electrons then are available for rejoining  water compound. which in returns keeps creating more thermal energy until stablized.



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