Author Topic: Bob Boyce  (Read 32472 times)

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mrgalleria

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Re: Bob Boyce
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2008, 07:45:02 am »
Aloha,
h2opower, Why do you use this name?
You said "...Bob really is not on the right track" 50 liters a minute is not on track? Frequencies? Which have you personally been successful with?
You made reference to Dr. X. For the first time I ever posted this anywhere, I believe that it was Marcel Vogel who made this discovery, as Dr. X. He was a famous and interesting inventor who did a great deal of research in water. The Gov was spying on him because of the results he acquired. I recently met a man who worked with him a great deal, and he told me a story very similar to the Dr. X story of water disassociation.
You need to do more research on Bob, check out Patrick Kellys writings.
You talk about puppets, these are the people who believe what they are told without questioning, like for example people who think petrol is an acceptable fuel. Read about the Illuminotii if you want to understand why we are not permitted to use water as a fuel.
Dingle- same thing. After promises from his gov, he was dropped like an epidemic. Now he understands the reality of opportunities in water fuel.
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Re: Bob Boyce
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2008, 13:50:38 pm »
Hi guys,

The best thing is still doing. Run tests. Find out if sertain things work or not.
I agree that there is a lot of crap out there. And some are delivered on purpose to mislead the people.
I have seem many examples. Its very easy to do.

As long as people like Dingel and others dont share there info, its up to you and me.


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Re: Bob Boyce
« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2008, 20:02:04 pm »
i've never heard of the automotive x challenge. The reason i have not tried to contact dingle is because for one, i do not know how to contact him... another reason is i am unsure his car is even running on water. as i said in the the previous post running a car on water is not a problem, all you have to do is force the water threw a diesel injector and under the diesel compression something happens when the block is hot, Stanley meyers ran his car this way also. if anyone of you have a diesel engine that you do not care about, try it, get the block hot and switch over to water.. assuming this will destroy your engine after a period of time based on what i've herd about it.

about the additives im not sure how potasium hydroxide is different from sodium hydroxide, i know sodium hydroxide is 100% drain cleaner, not sure about the other. i know i would not dare drank the water because it makes me sick just smelling it, i paid 8 dollars for a bottle of sodium hydroxide, used it, and it cracked all my plastic containers, i threw almost a hole bottle away, i don't want it in my house ever again!

i think dingle may have been using gas before he switched over to water... if i could talk with him,, i would ask him.

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Re: Bob Boyce
« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2008, 12:34:27 pm »
I am enjoying these discussions of hydrogen extraction in this and other forums. I just wanted to make an observation about the Daniel Dingle comment.

The question was raised whether or not he even ran his car on water or water and gas. I don't know how he did it, but I did notice that under the hood of his car were many chemical formulas and I tend to lean toward him using a variation of hydrogen alloys. Metal Hydrides if implemented correctly could easily supplement a liquid gas. Maybe as some have suggested even run a car. People have posed building the cars frame and other body parts out of the hydrides. Well any rate that is my two cents for now ;D

mrgalleria

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Re: Bob Boyce
« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2008, 13:54:16 pm »
Aloha,
From my research on Dingle, I have learned the following. It is said that his cell was a battery which contained salt water. Modifications internally were unknown. It does separate hydrogen from oxygen. It runs on high voltage, probably one or more auto coils. If these are fired by the ignition, then increased RPM should result in increased output. He did start the cell for a period of time before starting car. There is a good discussion group in Yahoo. Countless people have contacted or tried to contact him. Likely he has become justly paranoid after being repeatedly lied to, threatened, and abused.
Like Mr. Boyce, who has run cars, boats, and who knows what on hydrogen. Bob has been the victim of unjust litigation because of his practices, and some expect him to jump out and get their cars running on hydrogen for them.
See "A Practical Guide to Free-Energy Devices" by Patrick Kelly, Chapter 10: Automotive Systems,
"137 pages waterfuel.pdf". There you will read that not only did Bob make 50 LPM, but 100 LPM in short bursts.
I asked why you use the name h2opower because you seem very critical of the water fuel pioneers, and water for fuel itself. You must be aware Stan did his best, if his work remains misunderstood, it is unlikely that it is his fault.
Bill

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Re: Bob Boyce
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2008, 15:02:26 pm »
he is running a pancheo  generator    it uses aluminum , magnesium plates  and bauxite ore which contains gallium   mixed  with salt water it creates    pure hydrogen gas

hydro

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Re: Bob Boyce
« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2008, 02:27:33 am »
Please i wish someone would lay something on the table, This could save me the trouble..

Gas is high, and its getting higher... you people are about to see a change in this world for the worse.. gas prices will never go down, they will go up until gas runs out or something takes over and thats the fact.

I pointed out to you a few post back what you should be learning, if you're unsure that you are right about something, then you probably don't know. if you are sure you know, then you know.  Stan knew he needed a master patent way before he ever ever got his first patent, he was a business man! Stan told you CLEARLY that he used the KISS METHOD.

Stan did not Get a patent "running a car on water," Stan got several Small patents "it was thought out." ("you cant patent a car that runs on water") in the end when the master patent put all the small patents together, it was one big patent saying a car can run on water.. so all these patents put together runs a car on water! and stan then own the rights to this technology.

("stans goal was to slick the patent office") and thats just what he did! for that, he has the impossible patent, the patent it took him so long to get! he knew they would not give him the patent he wanted so he found a way to get it! he had this all thought out before he ever patented anything... he knew what he wanted.. if stan was alive and his technology was in use, he would be leader of the world! he would carry the most money. The people did not realize what stan had until the Master patent came along, it was then they seen what had happened, this is how it worked.

what does all this have to do with this post? well, you're picking a very small patent, the resonate water patent, and you're are trying to run a car on it ignoring all the other patents. there is more than 1 way to do the same thing, you don't have to use a hammer to drive a nail, the hammer can be substituted. The hammer is so simple and it works great! "it drives the nail right in," but its not your invention! so you create whats called a nail gun, and that is yours when you patent it! so now the nail gun shows another way it can be done and if you choose to use the nail gun then you can accomplish the same job!

my point is its hard to patent something thats so known, and simple, without new ways of doing something already done, there would have been no stan meyer patents, but stan is the one that brought forth Pulsed DC and took it up a level, but if you think water resonate and boil out of a cell then you're out of your flippin mind, stan will look you in the eye and tell you he has a resonate cavity, and he does, it does resonate, for that he wins this patent. but just because the water resonates doesn't mean thats what he used, in the way he did make the water resonate, but the fact is it was proved and used to gain the patent he needed.

in the end, you will see that every methode stan used was possible, and nothing he did was overunity or mind blowing. but he had to blow minds to get this technology where he got it.

a good example is:  A man in an ice cube for 3 days, in this cube he is free to move around. Due to the weather outside the worker men has to keep the ice cold or it will melt. The man proves that he can stay in that tube for 3 days, you can see him in the tube shaking, he looks like he is going to die.

people watch, and they wait, 3 days passes and the cube is cut apart, and the workers pull the suffering man from the cube. the onlookers wonders if he will make it. The man lives and he proved that he "survive the cube." What you did not see is each time the workers blowed the cube to keep it from melting is his twin opened the door beneth his feet, as the ice was fogged by the workers you cant see in this cube, the twin brother would then rais up behind him as he makes his way down the hole, there is a room there with a refrigerator and tv where he gets to sleep and relax for 2 hours at a time, the brothers switch up every hour or so, so they dont freez.

Now, the man that was cut out from the cube, was he a liar? NO, he made it threw the 3 days.

the point is, you don't see everything, if it seems to good to be true, thats because it is.

you know the man was in the cube for 3 days, and for someone to tell you that he could not have been it would make you mad, because you sit there and you watched it! even though the skeptic "doctor" cant prove that he was not in the tube for 3 days he still has enough sense and knowledge to know its impossible.

so the doctor cant prove it, and the believer cant be skeptic from what he seen with his own eyes. But the fact is, The hammer method was used to fool you and make the doctor ask questions in which he can not figure out. The doctor knows this can not be done, but it was done right in front of his eyes, the doctor scratches his head and ponders in wonder. No lie was told.

But, it COULD resonate to infinity IF the electronics would allow it!
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h2opower

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Re: Bob Boyce
« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2008, 03:34:09 am »
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