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Re: 2008 water burns baby!
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2008, 07:01:12 am »
Guys

This has been posted by Elektrik_1 today on the Waterfuel1978 yahoo forum:

"to E:I met John Penderville in Las Vegas at a local IHOP resturant
about two weeks ago. He developed and built the prototypes and the
revisions of the injectors(423da) and the water metering system(422da)
John has a vast background working in various high tech arenas
including disney imagineering, and several technology firms around the
world. He now practices law and is working on some high profile cases
in the LV area. Alot of the confusion on the injector operating system
has to do with the construction of the unit itself. If you read Pat13
dated 1991, and I observed the dates of these memos, the work on the
injector sytem did't start until 9-92, continuing until 5-94 when John
completed the last batch of injectors. From what I have determined,
The injectors are the safest method of splitting water as there is no
hydroxy exposed until the very last split second in the process. He
recirculated the steam (400 degree flash steam) and fed the exhaustt
gases thru a ion-enrichment device (you notice the coils at he top and
bottom of the laser light chamber?) He didnot use laser diodes, he
used bright leds to saturate the steam gases with protons, covering
both bases by blanketing both ions and protons stripped from the water
mols reformed after the burn process. As stan theorized, If released
into the atmosphere, this would be a natural process. What he
failed(maybe purposely )to mention was that he recirculated steam over
and over to run the dune buggy. I hope to prove this soon as I am
making contact to retrieve the buggy and the related lab equipment. I
am currently setting up tooling and equipment to test the injectors
the way john built them. I should have some working units post
haste.The way this design is, you don,t even need a compression cycle
any ideas?Artinvegas. ."

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Re: 2008 water burns baby!
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2008, 14:27:20 pm »
Guys

Guess what!
After he had been silent for many months, s1r9a9m9 suddenly posted the following today on the watefuel 1978 forum:

The relay I used has two sets of coils and resisters in them. The
same thing can be made by blocking the currents from the plug wire
from going into the inverter and blocking the current from the
inverter going to the plug wire, but leaving an open loop for both
at the plug by grounding the inverter at the plug base and no where
else on the vehicle.

The inverter has a constant current going to the plug except when
the distrubitor sends fire through the plug wire. The inverter needs
to be blocked only for the time it takes the plug to fire from the
distrubitor, and the same for the distrubitor blocked from the
inverter.

What goes on with the plug tip? well the inverter sends a current
to the tip where there is water , the plug tip now has a magnetic
field around it when the plug is fired from the distrubitor the
field is incressed and the extra amps causes a arc to form in the
clyender that expands the water as like a lighting bolt would. You
can expand water but you cant compress it. Yes if to much water is
in the cylender it will lock the engine. Thats why the timeing is
set after TDC .

Gas will not burn, gas vapor will burn. A carberator is designed
to vaporize gas as it inters the intake manifold under a vacummn.
Water will become partly vaporized and the rest is used to incress
the compression in the clyender. A fuel injecter sprays a mist of
fluid not vapor. It will partly vaporize in the clyender before the
plug fires. That is why cars with carbs and cars with injecters have
defferent time even for the same size engines. There is a few
degrees defferents in them.

The relays I used did not have any numbers or names or any marking
on them at all. The parts I found that would work cost $600.00(US)
for each clyender, and I was ask not to give out that info becaused
of what they were used for. Home Land Secuirty Issue's. I dont
ask , I dont tell. Plus how many people would spend their rent
money for the parts. None of this can be patented and sold.

I hpoe this will help others finish their projects.

And as I have said before , Dont stop other projects you are working
on just to try this , it took me two years before I got it right.


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Re: 2008 water burns baby!
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2008, 04:50:54 am »
what is that a bink or debelvouse? LOL, anyway, i dont think that will work, the good part of that mist is about a foot away from the gun, you need to be able to mix the hydrogen into the mist as it comes out.

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Re: 2008 water burns baby!
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2008, 06:16:54 am »
to tell you the truth alot of findings is made by mistake, you should try hydrogen in that gun with water, who knows you could stumble onto something???

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Re: 2008 water burns baby!
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2008, 09:05:15 am »
HYDRO

I've used this gun before, To burn fuel oil with steam. And once the steam is turned on,  The flame is outstanding. It goes from yellow orange to blue white. maybe it can give you some ideas.

This is my first post, And I'm still gathering supplies, but I'll keep you posted.

Hope this helps
Spike

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Re: 2008 water burns baby!
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2008, 04:41:12 am »
this may get interesting!

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Re: 2008 water burns baby!
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2008, 20:13:21 pm »

The way this design is, you don,t even need a compression cycle
any ideas?Artinvegas. ."


I dont understand how he can say you wouldent need a compression stroke.
The mixture will be more combustable at 9x (9:1 compression ratio) the atmospheric pressure

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Re: 2008 water burns baby!
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2008, 13:47:25 pm »
Any news yet?