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Re: Electric field do perform work Concept by sebosfato...
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2010, 12:30:26 pm »
Think about this:
Why are coils made of copper wire instead of resistive wire Stan is talking about?
Think about an electron. In what kind of wire does it do more interaction? Even on the "Ambient", in terms of magnetic en static wave/fields.
Resistive wires: when for example temperature is rising the resistance is rising, magnetic field is rising more it want to compensate. Copper wire has less resistance so it doesn't compensate on a bigger scale it's just a guide with less work for a electron to do something? So if you want to "collect/receive" why do we use copper wire?
Correct me if I'm thinking wrong.
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Re: Electric field do perform work Concept by sebosfato...
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2010, 14:13:41 pm »
Well if you were to tap into a source of energy witch should come from a certain oscillation yes, it could be useful to construct the antenna with as much as resistance possible, as you would get greater band width to receive the signals, in this you are right.


Hoever, i was considering another thing, i was thinking that maybe the resistance in my theory would not be of much help, as i want to mess around with free electrons on the metal.


Anyway probably when i re read yet again meyer words i think that could be useful in the process of transformation into dynamic coherent voltage... Maybe the permeability of the iron would allow more skin effect witch would make the electric field to travel outside the wire... well i'm not sure.


I will try to build a big pancake coil with steel wire that i have here to check this out.


Many things have crossed my mind, now i need to build the experiments to be able to confirm what i'm saying. If i could have more budget i would get some more material to test, i'm waiting a bit cause a friend promised me that his friend would help me with some money to be more free to get components with less worries.


I'm constructing a bifilar inductor on a toroid 10cm diameter, i will try driving the coil with a primary and check if i can get the effect i want... I'm not sure if it will be possible driving the thing as a transformer, for obvious reasons. So i'm trying still to figure a way to have the wires in electric force contact having the lower mutual magnetic induction between the wire possible.


The best way i'm thinking would be with a wire that wouldn't work on a transformer or just badly. Maybe ss... Cause i want to induce the electric field, while not allowing the magnetic field to couple the electrons on the wire. I'm sure there might be an effective way of doing this. Tesla drawings with are similar to mines seems a way, i was just investigating the bifilar stan proposed to understand the thing better. I think is the same thing...


By the way, yesterday i saw am air powered motor in a ecological fair here. They were neighbors of my friend... It works on a modified engine having bronze piston... They say that  the use a 60w resistance to pre heat the air going in, than they inject about 50cc of cold air when the temperature inside the engine reach 600°C due to the pressure, the cold air will cause an explosion, as explosion mean whatever thing that expands violently rapid. Than the exhaust comes out of the engine at -10°C... They told me the were using the same principle of the tube vortex, or the same as the twisters,...


I also saw the presentation of the Keppe motor, they have magnetic motors that are over-unity, but they showed only the motors working comparatively with other similar rpm and load, consuming up to 90% less energy than the other.


They claim to have another thing other than action reaction, they talk about action and complement, they say that in nature you create an action and it will return to you with more than a = and opposite reaction, it would also give to you a complement. They said that 140% were recently achieved and that the thing was in Germany for getting the over-unity certification. Well there might be something there however they were not transparent, i asked scientific questions, and they were amazing people that the neon little lamp witch would need 50v to light was getting lighted with the back emf pulse being feed by a 9v battery. A kind of smell of charlatanism. They were selling books.  =?     


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Re: Electric field do perform work Concept by sebosfato...
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2010, 16:27:59 pm »
Just for reading, check this link:
http://amasci.com/tesla/tesceive.html

Stuff You probably have already read somewhere else. 8)

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Re: Electric field do perform work Concept by sebosfato...
« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2010, 16:48:25 pm »
Yes i saw this article in the past, they and also others say that when you have the antenna energized by some mean you are able to receive more signal.


Is very interesting thanks for remind me.


I read many things and when ideas cross my mind i use to re-read everything. It helps a lot my process of understanding.


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Re: Electric field do perform work Concept by sebosfato...
« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2010, 17:40:25 pm »
Yes i saw this article in the past, they and also others say that when you have the antenna energized by some mean you are able to receive more signal.


Is very interesting thanks for remind me.


I read many things and when ideas cross my mind i use to re-read everything. It helps a lot my process of understanding.


Fabio
Yes, I also re-read documents all the time. Gives me almost every time different insights. ;D

Can you post a few sources about this effect who you know about? Are you referring to: Tesla, Don Smith,  Steven Mark, kapanadze etc.
I appreciate it!

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Re: Electric field do perform work Concept by sebosfato...
« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2010, 18:08:09 pm »
For physics, electromagnetic fields forces are transmitted thru virtual photons...


How to understand something that is invisible? We now how it interact with matter to some extent... but not certainly in my opinion.

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Re: Electric field do perform work Concept by sebosfato...
« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2010, 23:22:49 pm »
For physics, electromagnetic fields forces are transmitted thru virtual photons...


How to understand something that is invisible? We now how it interact with matter to some extent... but not certainly in my opinion.

Yes, Fabio.
Free Photons are the particles that seems to help the magnetic field to turn into an electric charge as soon as the magnetic field collapses in a coil.
Thats the deepest theory i have read on that subject and i think it might be correct.

Steve