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Stacked Resonant Cavities
« on: October 04, 2010, 02:32:59 am »
The exact design and function of these cavities is unknown, there are few pictures and details and comments about them.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/bigbuba/Resonantcavity3-1.jpg)

What we know:
- These units are designed to be stacked vertically, below the Hydrogen Gas Gun.
- Water and gas flow vertically through and between the stacked cavities
- They have fiber-optic distribution of laser energy into the process, some how
- The VIC is inside this unit, as you can see, wrapped around the bottom of the tube, and the hv warning label
- The whole unit has a large diameter, cased in delrin, about 5 or 6 inches
- They are mentioned in several patents, and the Switzerland Video
- Dynodon has not seen them

The parts shown in this picture, and the general design, is not exactly clear. I'd like to discuss this to see if we can figure out more about it's workings.

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Re: Stacked Resonant Cavities
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2010, 18:27:58 pm »

Sorry Sebosfato, I'm not interested in theory here.


What is up for discussion here is the design and function of this unit, I am trying to gather insight on these parts and components, what each does, how they fit together, why stan would design each part like he did, why he would use this configuration. I want to know what Stan was thinking when he designed this.


What we can see is a cylindrical case of delrin, with a rectangular box on the side with bolts for power input.


On the bottom there is a recess and flange so that it can be bolted to on top of the next unit.


The top is open, so that might imply the unit above this one would be the cover for this one.


Here is a picture of the stack, you can see how the flanges connect to to each other and how the bottom of one acts as the cover for the next:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/bigbuba/StackedCavity.jpg)


We can not see the bottom of the unit, but the above thought would imply there is an inlet, or open chamber of some form, into the next unit.


Here with the Hydrogen Gas Gun on top you can see how much larger the diameter of this unit is, also note the water chamber above the stack, and the water line form the water chamber to the bottom of the stack. The bottom section below the bottom resonant cavity unit looks like it acts as a cover for the bottom RC, and an inlet for the water, that the water line connects too:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/bigbuba/GasGunonCavityStack.jpg)


Jumping to the VIC, we see in the patents that lines point to the inside of the unit saying Voltage Intensifier Circuit, we see that the label on the unit says Warning High Voltage Intensifier Circuit, and around the bottom of the SS tube we see what might be electrical tape around a coil of wire. We know that the Hydrogen Gas Gun has an internal VIC, wrapped around the tubes, so this is in cooperation.


The rectangular box on the side with power input may contain, at my guess, the resonant scanning sweep lock on driver circuit. The reason for this assumption is that each of these cavities should resonate at it's own frequency, so the pulsing circuit would require feedback and there are only two bolts on the box, which accounts for power input, but not feedback to an external pulsing circuit, also having the pulsing circuit in proximity to the VIC makes sense as this is a stackable self contained module.


I think this is the circuitry that is inside that box on the side:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/bigbuba/LatestTechnology.jpg)


The tube that the VIC is wrapped around has a hole in the side of it, and solid top, this may be a white delrin cap. This may be the inside tube with a 0.5 inch diameter, or it may be the outside tube with a 0.75 inch diameter, I am thinking it is the inside tube, but making some measurements on the photograph with a few references would help narrow that down with more confidence.


If it is the outside tube, then the delrin cap may act to hold the inside tube in the center and the hole would allow the gas to flow out of the tube set.


If it is the inside tube, then the delrin cap may act to block the flow of through the center of the tube so it will be forced out the hole.


If it is the inside tube then the outside tube must go over it, and the VIC is in the way, so the tube set would be concentric only for the portion above the VIC, which might appear to be less that 3". Another assumption is that this is a 3" tube set.


The delrin cylindrical part next to the tube set has a hole in the side near the top, a guess to the purpose of this part may be that it contains the outer tube, and is positioned over/around the other tube, and insulates it from the water bath. If this is the case, the holes in the inside tube and the delrin cylinder will not line up, and the delrin cylinder may be too short to reach the VIC, which would leave a gap for water to flow. A concern here is that if the water/gas form the below cell flows through the inside tube, through the hole at the top if it, and then out the hole in the delrin cylinder, then the water/gas flow is not directed through the cavity.


The orientation of the VIC+tube part inside the case could either be with the VIC+tube upside down to it's current position, so that the VIC is at the top of the unit, or more likely in it's current orientation, so that the VIC is at the bottom of the unit. Reasons for this are, the VIC has to have 4 electrical connections from it, the two from the primary, and two from the feedback coil. There are no visible connections to the box on the side from the top, so the connections must be at the bottom, out of sight in this picture.


More thoughts soon.

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Re: Stacked Resonant Cavities
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2010, 01:12:38 am »
Donald,those are resonant cavities that are placed after the WFC.They are used to ionize the the hydrogen and oxygen gasses as they pass through them.Each one would raise the ionized levels higher.They would also remove the electrons as well,because it can be done on the same two terminals.There is no water going through these cell,because of the LED's in the base.This is where the Hydrogen Fracturing process would take place.
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Re: Stacked Resonant Cavities
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2010, 14:21:26 pm »
In these modular cells, you say there are LEDs in the base?


I am trying to picture how it gets put together, can you describe how they would be oriented or positioned with the rest of the components?


There appears to be two lenses there, beige and purple, i was thinking that these would be for distributing light from a fiber optic source, it mentions the use of fiber optic cables to each modular cell from a pulsing light source in the patents, but i can't really tell if that is how these work or not.


i thought these cells made the gas from water, and then like you say, the next cell raises the ionization level even more, until it gets to the gas processor for the final stage, what indication is there that these don't have water in them? would gas be put into these cells from another wfc?

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Re: Stacked Resonant Cavities
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2010, 18:06:24 pm »
The LEDs are right there in the picture you posted at the start of this thread.It's the white disc in the lower right side of  the photo.You can see them in a circle.That picture isn't the best one I've seen of them.
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Re: Stacked Resonant Cavities
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2010, 22:01:57 pm »
Interesting, i never would have thought that was a disk of LEDs, do you have a clearer picture you can post?


What do you make of the two lenses?

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Re: Stacked Resonant Cavities
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2010, 22:19:30 pm »
My guess on the lenses would be he was looking for a certain wave length of light.I'm sure I have the same pics,but I know there was a couple of those from the same video.
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Re: Stacked Resonant Cavities
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2010, 22:24:58 pm »
do you know what the delrin cylinder does? does it just fit over the tube? those holes don't appear to line up so i can't be sure what its purpose is