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http://www.google.com/gwt/x?q=magnetic+gas&ei=QjRYTNjZHsOPtgfqqIulAw&start=10&hl=en&source=m&u=http://www.springerlink.com/index/k4u3011662017720.pdf check out this article.  Mit. Professor is taking credit for discovering gas can display ferromagnetic properties in 2009. If Meyers wasn't bsing us he discovered it long before. Google magnetic gas to read the paper. The link is to another paper concerning diapole alignment only the abstract.
 I think the gas has to be align before showing any detectable magnetic properties. That's what the permanent magnets do. I get that. When you start pulsing the inductor does it start aligning the gas matrix or ? Does any one know what kind and where I could scavenge a pump to circulate the gasses through the system? I'm thinking AC pump. Any other ideas appreciated. Time to reread all patents. Hey I thought this would be straight forward. Go figure.
Would be nice to see what others have done no sense in doing the same work twice. I will tell all good and bad here. Open source.
 You know it surprises me that there is not more collaborative approach on these boards. Maybe its going on behind the scene. Not in an open manner. Hope final information is passed on to the masses. Rami.

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Would be nice to see what others have done no sense in doing the same work twice. I will tell all good and bad here. Open source.
 You know it surprises me that there is not more collaborative approach on these boards. Maybe its going on behind the scene. Not in an open manner. Hope final information is passed on to the masses. Rami.
most people published everything they did here, but as you can see no one (not many?) had success with splitting water via voltage and moved on. The forum is full of threads about other peoples' work.

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Haithar I'm not saying anything derogatory towards anyone. Just that little side things are going on that never make it to the boards. Now I don't know for sure I haven't read every post on this board. I haven't Come across any mention of epg tests experiments or the like. If you know of some please point me in the right dirrection. Steve mentioned he and sebasto did a few experiments on the magnitism of the gas. It would be of benifit me to know some details. I am thinking of tests to do myself. My oscope went down the other day so it will be a handycap experiment. Steve any help bro.  I think a cap. Blew out in the oscope it started hissing like pressure escaping. I shut it down right away. Haven't opened it up yet to peek at it.
I will try to think of a test I can get some kind of indication from. I'm thinking fill up a PVC tube to about 30 psi then apply external magnetics to align gas then remove magnets slip inductor around tube move inductor. Ends of L in mouth to detect voltage/current.
Any thoughts welcome. I might just get one small loop of SS tubing hook to ports on current setup and try to pulse portion of said tube. Make a fine gauge secondary hook to a led.
 The factors that directly control output according to Meyers are: pressure, pulse input, speed gas is moving( velocity ) and secondary windings and sometimes holding your mouth right helps. I can't believe no one has offered any circuit help yet. I guess the right individual hasn't read this yet. Don't be scared, step on up. God bless Rami.

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OK I was told to use pex tubing , by an individual who claims to have a working prototype. I reread 2 of the patents and it jumped out at me non magnetic non conductive tubing. He also said the input is beyond pulsed? Just thought I would make this known for those trying to make an EPG. Rami.

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OK I was told to use pex tubing , by an individual who claims to have a working prototype. I reread 2 of the patents and it jumped out at me non magnetic non conductive tubing. He also said the input is beyond pulsed? Just thought I would make this known for those trying to make an EPG. Rami.

PEX is cross-linked polyethylene. Through one of several processes, links between polyethylene molecules are formed to create bridges (thus the term "cross-linked). This resulting material is more durable under temperature extremes, chemical attack, and better resists creep deformation, making PEX an excellent material for hot water and other applications.
 
http://www.ppfahome.org/pex/faqpex.html
 
 
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I have tried with pulsed bubbles. Big bubbles, small bubbles, steady flow of HHO....
Nothing on my scope. The scope was set on it highest sensistive setting for your info.
I could see spikes of the lightswitches upstairs......But nothing from the HHO flow.
 
Question: Why dont you invite that person who claims to have replicated the EPG.
That would be great!
 
 
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Steve, was the gas and or bubbles passed through a magnetic field first? If not would you mind repeating the experiment again? Pictorially in the patent Meyers shows the atoms taking on a magnetic field or stronger field after passing through a set of magnets N S orientation. There is something else that sticks in my brain, that is Meyers says from here on think of the atoms individually not as a mass. I don't know if that is a clue. Correct me if I'm wrong. Hydrogen is diamagnetic and oxygen is paramagnetic. Food for thought. As to inviting this fellow to come on the board that would be great if he would. I don't think he would. He mentioned he has been on some of these threads and and caught flack over some issues concerning Meyers back story. He also said that when he tried to give clues to how the wfc tech worked he was dealing with some ego issues so he stopped posting. He did say the technology was real. The epg should be straight forward I think so any way. It looks like when he discovered it he filed that US patent with the weird embodiment looks like some sort of electric motor with a pulley on the bottom. I think he was trying to sneak in in under the radar. This fellow might be full of it. Show me. I asked him about the one way valve shown in the Canadian patent he said there isn't one. But to me it seems that upon the collapse of the field in the inductor it would pull the gas back. Unless the field is much stronger during the energizing than the bemf.  Due to velocity its just a loss associated with the system. After the mass is moving it doesn't matter. Beyond pulsed? Now what does that mean?  I have a few thoughts on that. Although I'm not really qualified to speak about electronics. What comes to mind is an RLC circuit where the pump is the L portion. Or could be a magnetic standing wave. Any thoughts on that? My new build will be finished today. Still haven't figured how I'm going to pulse it. I'm thinking about using my bedini motor. Haithar put the link up for me on misters Thanks by the way, I understand I need to put a flywheel diode parallel with the inductor to stop it from damaging the mosfet. I have different diodes switching, rectifying , old microwave diodes. I will try and look later online for one. The Guy at radio shack just looked at me funny. Hey its all Greek to me too.
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Steve, was the gas and or bubbles passed through a magnetic field first? If not would you mind repeating the experiment again? Pictorially in the patent Meyers shows the atoms taking on a magnetic field or stronger field after passing through a set of magnets N S orientation. There is something else that sticks in my brain, that is Meyers says from here on think of the atoms individually not as a mass. I don't know if that is a clue. Correct me if I'm wrong. Hydrogen is diamagnetic and oxygen is paramagnetic. Food for thought. As to inviting this fellow to come on the board that would be great if he would. I don't think he would. He mentioned he has been on some of these threads and and caught flack over some issues concerning Meyers back story. He also said that when he tried to give clues to how the wfc tech worked he was dealing with some ego issues so he stopped posting. He did say the technology was real. The epg should be straight forward I think so any way. It looks like when he discovered it he filed that US patent with the weird embodiment looks like some sort of electric motor with a pulley on the bottom. I think he was trying to sneak in in under the radar. This fellow might be full of it. Show me. I asked him about the one way valve shown in the Canadian patent he said there isn't one. But to me it seems that upon the collapse of the field in the inductor it would pull the gas back. Unless the field is much stronger during the energizing than the bemf.  Due to velocity its just a loss associated with the system. After the mass is moving it doesn't matter. Beyond pulsed? Now what does that mean?  I have a few thoughts on that. Although I'm not really qualified to speak about electronics. What comes to mind is an RLC circuit where the pump is the L portion. Or could be a magnetic standing wave. Any thoughts on that? My new build will be finished today. Still haven't figured how I'm going to pulse it. I'm thinking about using my bedini motor. Haithar put the link up for me on misters Thanks by the way, I understand I need to put a flywheel diode parallel with the inductor to stop it from damaging the mosfet. I have different diodes switching, rectifying , old microwave diodes. I will try and look later online for one. The Guy at radio shack just looked at me funny. Hey its all Greek to me too.
Take care, Rami.

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I tried it with and without external magnets.....
 
 
 
 
 

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Wow, what is your conclusion?  We need to build a hydrogen gas gun and process some argon through some carbon. LOL. You think volume and velocity is the reason you didn't show power? Rami.