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Re: Latest Success of a Vehicle Running 100% on Water
« Reply #64 on: October 23, 2010, 03:48:35 am »
Besides setting the magnetic fields, the tubes need to be annealed to soften them.  This is supposed to enhance their performance.

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« Reply #65 on: October 23, 2010, 04:13:34 am »
Yes you would think that annealing may be a plus.
 
I was told that it was not neccessary.
It is an added expense.

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« Reply #66 on: October 24, 2010, 04:42:11 am »
Yes you would think that annealing may be a plus.
 
I was told that it was not neccessary.
It is an added expense.
I think Freddy himself says it’s necessary in the following video at 7:50:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax6U0xXMwBk&feature=mfu_in_order&playnext=1&videos=fn6MAv4zYmk

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Re: Latest Success of a Vehicle Running 100% on Water
« Reply #67 on: October 24, 2010, 10:58:51 am »
Question:

Did anybody seen anything about making the surface shine like a mirror on these FF tubes?

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« Reply #68 on: October 24, 2010, 20:39:52 pm »
Mina I was just relating to you what was told to me by Freddy.
Annealing will soften the metal if done correctly and it appears if its done can enhance the performance of vibration as Freddy has stated in the video for Proto 7.
 
Also there is personal creativity that can be applied to enhance the operation of the cell you will make as long as the fundamental principles of the system as it works are enhanced and not degraded. (certain other methods of building were also brought to my attention IE:epoxy laced with ferrous oxide method).
 
So the question is still the same, has a simple single pair test be done to confirm the enhanced ionized gas and production. Before anyone were to spend and possibly waste hard earned dollars on certain processes. (anyone else other than Freddy in a video?)
 
Also a quality seamless tube when made seems to undergo an annealing process and this may have to do with the manufacturer that made the tubing.
Meaning I'm pretty sure all manufactures may have slightly different processes although the methods are pretty much the same.
Freddy told me he purchased his tubes from onlinemetals. http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?id=902&step=2&top_cat=1
 
If you buy your seamless from online metals take a note of the technical grade: ASTM A213 or ASME SA-213
Further probing into this specification tells you: All material is to be furnished in heat treated condition.
This tubing has basically undergone some annealing to attach this specification quality to it.
 
It will be best when you purchase your tubing to understand what it is you are buying, so pay attention.
Annealing may be a waste of dollars if the metal has already undergone an annealing process.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   

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« Reply #69 on: October 24, 2010, 21:11:00 pm »
Steve that is a good point:  "Did anybody seen anything about making the surface shine like a mirror on these FF tubes?"
 
Freddy mentioned to me a basic building block of construction is creativity/imagination and an intenseness of detail.

No where is it mentioned in Freddy's video's about polishing a tube.
Also I did not see any polished tubes in Freddy's shop.
I know Freddy was all about keep it simple stupid method as Stan Meyer.
 
Speaking with Freddy he states many of these processes are uneccessary, but also these many processes enhance the performance just a little.
So it seems that how much work are we/you willing to do?
 
If the inside of the center tube is polished you would think that it aids to vibration of acousto-deflection/reflection, by not being absorbed by a rough surface, but what if you want it to be absorbed to aid in vibrations?. I think more information is neccessary.
If the inside of the tube pair gap is polished its another question.
We know that a sanded surface exposes more surface area and in turn more area makes more gas as in a standard electrolizer.
But an acoustic vibration may most likely deflect better off a polished surface (don't know), still more information is needed.
Now it becomes self experimentation on various theory's.
 
Does anybody have any PDF study's on acousto-mechanical deflection/vibration? It may be helpfull of more understanding.
Signal vibration propogation.
 
 
 

 
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« Reply #70 on: October 25, 2010, 22:38:25 pm »
I was just informed that the rod holding the cell in the video of Freddy's test was also connected to a steel chair and was explained as funneling energy from the outside environment into the cell.
Also that another chemical was being used as a catalyst.
 
These informations and descriptions will become available in an upcoming PDF file from Freddy.
Either way I look at it it is apparent that there is some interesting reactions happening with Freddy's cell.
It appears that the full information disclosure will be available when the PDF is published.
This PDF will have a cost of $100 when its available.
 
I don't think it wise to perform a full replication build just yet.
Although testing of a single tube cell sounds interesting to see what result may be acheived.
 
What other catalyst in the bucket can produce his result?
 

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« Reply #71 on: October 27, 2010, 05:47:28 am »
I was just informed that the rod holding the cell in the video of Freddy's test was also connected to a steel chair and was explained as funneling energy from the outside environment into the cell.
Also that another chemical was being used as a catalyst.
 
These informations and descriptions will become available in an upcoming PDF file from Freddy.
Either way I look at it it is apparent that there is some interesting reactions happening with Freddy's cell.
It appears that the full information disclosure will be available when the PDF is published.
This PDF will have a cost of $100 when its available.
 
I don't think it wise to perform a full replication build just yet.
Although testing of a single tube cell sounds interesting to see what result may be acheived.
 
What other catalyst in the bucket can produce his result?
@Komtek:
Thanks for the additional information.  What I was wondering now is when Freddy is going allow the secret/private replicators to publish their independent results and have their measurements/results verified?
 
I have a great deal of respect for Freddy and his accomplices.  They are about to change the world in a major way and sometimes it's hard to imagine freedom from the parasitic (not to mention unscrupulous, greedy and manipulating monopolizers) energy vendors at long last becoming a reality.