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Re: 6.5hp generator made ready for HHO
« Reply #80 on: September 10, 2010, 20:22:02 pm »
What kind of ratio of HHO/Air/Exhaust did you use?

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Re: 6.5hp generator made ready for HHO
« Reply #81 on: September 10, 2010, 21:16:29 pm »
Just tried many settings, Donald.
I didnt get any improvement at all....
 
 

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Re: 6.5hp generator made ready for HHO
« Reply #82 on: September 11, 2010, 07:21:20 am »
Hi Steve and Donald,
when I was working on hydrogen boosting diesel engines we did a lot of exhaust gas measurements.
We normally found that Nox stayed the same or slighty increased, CO2 very small reduction but CO was almost eliminated along with hydrocarbons or HC.
This was inline with our theory of the hydrogen promoting better combustion.
We also found a point which I called the top of the bell curve where we had no further improvement of producing more hydrogen (around 4 to 5% of the total fuel value) as it had reached the maximum burn and then became a very inefficient fuel replacement. (fuel gains dropped off and began to reverse)
This is well and good when burning diesel.
We also got a similar performance increase when we just injected a little water vapour mainly on power and efficency
We also tested injecting in EGR systems etc etc.
Now when it comes to recirculating HHO exhaust fumes, appart from a few HC from the crankcase oil, and a little water vapour, there is nothing benificial in recirculating it. This would explain why when burning HHO as opposed to fossil fuels you will see little improvement.
With the Anton cell the thing that interests me is the reporting of amonia fumes. This occurs if you are using urea or some other similar compound in the fuel. However in their case I have no way of explaining it as the must be forming a little NH3 somehow.
I know you know all of this Steve but I hope it might be of help to you Donald
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Re: 6.5hp generator made ready for HHO
« Reply #83 on: September 13, 2010, 21:40:44 pm »
Hi Steve and Donald,
when I was working on hydrogen boosting diesel engines we did a lot of exhaust gas measurements.
We normally found that Nox stayed the same or slighty increased, CO2 very small reduction but CO was almost eliminated along with hydrocarbons or HC.
This was inline with our theory of the hydrogen promoting better combustion.
We also found a point which I called the top of the bell curve where we had no further improvement of producing more hydrogen (around 4 to 5% of the total fuel value) as it had reached the maximum burn and then became a very inefficient fuel replacement. (fuel gains dropped off and began to reverse)
This is well and good when burning diesel.
We also got a similar performance increase when we just injected a little water vapour mainly on power and efficency
We also tested injecting in EGR systems etc etc.
Now when it comes to recirculating HHO exhaust fumes, appart from a few HC from the crankcase oil, and a little water vapour, there is nothing benificial in recirculating it. This would explain why when burning HHO as opposed to fossil fuels you will see little improvement.
With the Anton cell the thing that interests me is the reporting of amonia fumes. This occurs if you are using urea or some other similar compound in the fuel. However in their case I have no way of explaining it as the must be forming a little NH3 somehow.
I know you know all of this Steve but I hope it might be of help to you Donald
Mark

Interesting stuff Mark.
Tell me; did you test for H2 in the exhaust when burning with Diesel or Petrol?

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Re: 6.5hp generator made ready for HHO
« Reply #84 on: September 13, 2010, 22:47:29 pm »
@Logic,
no we did not test for H2. We did note condensation building up in the exhaust. I was working with diesels at the time only.
A lot of the fuel milage increases were due to the H2 cleaning up the engine. You could get the same with water spray injection.
In one case w achieved a 13% increase in furl savings over a three month period. When we took the device off we still got 11%. This was decause the engibe was kept clean.
if you just ran a cheap gasoline engine on HHO ,unless you treaded the contact surfaces of that engine you would suffer corrosion or hydrogen embrittlement.
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Re: 6.5hp generator made ready for HHO
« Reply #85 on: September 17, 2010, 12:03:15 pm »
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Re: 6.5hp generator made ready for HHO
« Reply #86 on: September 20, 2010, 15:31:46 pm »
Great video,
i always like these things to inspire the immagination. I came away asking the question...what if we created the vacuum in a sperate cylinender to the motor and applied it via valve oppenning and some hosing. .I<E< explode the HHO in a very strong external cyliner (explosion proof) then use that vacuum to suck the piston up? No need to counter the intial expansion. However like all good things you would then miss out on the benefits of the possitive pressure that occurs in the first instance.
Mark
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Re: 6.5hp generator made ready for HHO
« Reply #87 on: October 07, 2010, 22:15:10 pm »
After the last big blow-up, my setup didnt perform anymore as before.
I tested the gas and that seems fine. The whole wfc is airtight and no leaks.

The only thing left was to take the engines head of.
There was 1 part of the valves that was bend by the forces of flashback.
The other thing was that the valves where not closing very well.
I ll guess that mr Chinaman is not sanding the valves perfectly into the seat for us.

My advise to you all, who are running engine tests: Sand your valves and seat BEFORE you start testing with HHO!!!!!

Here are pictures of my engine refurbishing project.
After mounting all components back on the engine, you could here the valves closing and opening better then ever....Plopping sound.... (yeh, i am weard.....)

Steve