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Re: 6.5hp generator made ready for HHO
« Reply #32 on: August 22, 2010, 11:10:36 am »
wait didn't you use a HHO:air mix when testing?
The Anton people didn't change anything at the valves when they first tried it (forum entry of today).

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Re: 6.5hp generator made ready for HHO
« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2010, 14:49:31 pm »
wait didn't you use a HHO:air mix when testing?
The Anton people didn't change anything at the valves when they first tried it (forum entry of today).

Hi Haithar,
 
Hier ist die email von Oliver:
 
Hi Steve,
 
Super!
Dann sind wir nicht mehr so alleine. :)
 
An dem Motor haben wir so ziemlich alles geaendert.
Am wichtigsten war die richtige Art der "Einspritzung" von HHO direkt zum
Einlassventil.
Ja, an der Ventilsteuerung haben wir auch etwas verstellt,
aber eigentlich braucht man ein komplett andere Nockenwelle.
Das lohnt sich nur nicht bei dem billigen Motor und geht auch ohne das.
 
Congrats!
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Re: 6.5hp generator made ready for HHO
« Reply #34 on: August 23, 2010, 21:01:56 pm »
Is there a thread in this forum which sums up the work that has to be done to run a generator on HHO?
Next 13 plates will arrive this week, and with good luck i'll be able to produce ~6l/min, which could be enough to idle my 1,7kW generator.


By the way i researched conventional electrolyzers and the modern ones with 70-80% efficiency get >10MMW. So no overunity for us ;)




Source:
http://www.elektrolyse.de/vkp/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=5&sess_ID=1e5f8a58d83b956f44856989a1996653

4,6-4,9kWh for 1,5m³ HHO (0°, 1atm pressure).


edit: They calculate the efficiency by comparing the heating value of the created gas with the electrical input, nothing with Faraday's law or something like that.
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Re: 6.5hp generator made ready for HHO
« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2010, 09:41:25 am »
Is there a thread in this forum which sums up the work that has to be done to run a generator on HHO?
Next 13 plates will arrive this week, and with good luck i'll be able to produce ~6l/min, which could be enough to idle my 1,7kW generator.


By the way i researched conventional electrolyzers and the modern ones with 70-80% efficiency get >10MMW. So no overunity for us ;)




Source:
http://www.elektrolyse.de/vkp/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=5&sess_ID=1e5f8a58d83b956f44856989a1996653

4,6-4,9kWh for 1,5m³ HHO (0°, 1atm pressure).


edit: They calculate the efficiency by comparing the heating value of the created gas with the electrical input, nothing with Faraday's law or something like that.


Just start with eliminating the waistspark and make adjustable timing.
For the next step, the valves...you better give me a call.
Then injecting HHO as close as you can to the inlet valve.
An air adjustable intake valve.
Check yr compression.
Thats whats it takes.

Steve

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Re: 6.5hp generator made ready for HHO
« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2010, 20:17:18 pm »
Update:
 
I finished my injection on the valve system...
Its a thin tube which will be inserted into the air intake.
 
The tests for tomorrow, if the weather allows it, will be:
1. Injection on the valves, from who is said that it should bring a lot extra.
2. Closed loop system between exhaust and airintake with only HHO injected.
 
 
Steve
 
ps.
Here some pics.
 
As you can see, is my system working under a constant pressure of at least 0.2bar / 2.9PSI
till 0.5 bar / 7.26 PSI.
 
Also my new waterreservoir / first bubler of 316 SS. This was needed because of the many gasleaks i had.
The whole system is now gasleak free. (Not easy btw..)
 
 

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« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2010, 20:19:12 pm »
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Re: 6.5hp generator made ready for HHO
« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2010, 21:21:19 pm »
I'm grateful to see you're still testing around with this stuff... If I had a faster connection I'd check these sites more often, However my connection is low and so is my budget.

I should be doing pretty well this time next year. If so look for some competition.  ;D

BTW, I found a Local SS suplier, and I now have a 3 phase Sheer!!! However I have no means to use it for a very long while. I buy SS in 4' x 10' Sheets, Sheer it where I want it. Each sheet cost around $300.00 that's 40 square foot!



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Re: 6.5hp generator made ready for HHO
« Reply #39 on: August 31, 2010, 23:21:46 pm »
I'm grateful to see you're still testing around with this stuff... If I had a faster connection I'd check these sites more often, However my connection is low and so is my budget.

I should be doing pretty well this time next year. If so look for some competition.  ;D

BTW, I found a Local SS suplier, and I now have a 3 phase Sheer!!! However I have no means to use it for a very long while. I buy SS in 4' x 10' Sheets, Sheer it where I want it. Each sheet cost around $300.00 that's 40 square foot!

Hi Buddy,
 
See all my testing as free info for you, my friend.
Hope to talk to you soon...
 
Steve