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Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2008, 01:14:10 am »
It sounds like your alternator may have a problem. Can you turn it by hand? It should rotate easily. 1/3 HP should turn the alternator with no load but you should get 1 hp or more.

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Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2008, 03:56:51 am »
Hydrocars Help!

I finally got a alternator motor setup with an 8 inch pulley on the motor and a 2 inch pulley on the alternator.

My motor is 1/3HP motor 115 volt motor

http://cgi.ebay.com/1-3HP-115-Volt-AC-Motor_W0QQitemZ170122260563QQihZ007QQcategoryZ71400QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

But the alternator will not turn. At my age this has been quite a struggle.

I need to know is my motor too weak?

What is the minimum size motor i need...remember i will be pulsing the rotor coils too and my motor wont even turn the rotor with zero load.

do i need a larger motor and how much HP do I need?

i am very sorry  i did not see your post sooner waterfalcon, you should be able to spin the alternator with your hand very easily. i used a 3/4 hp with my 6 cells and it worked great but i dont recommend it now. today i use a 3 HP motor with my cells.

i'm truely sorry for this late reply, if you need any more help just ask.

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Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic
« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2008, 00:58:11 am »
Thanks everybody and hydrocars, I am now sure its my motor. I have a tractor alternator 28 volts 55 amps boshc, i can turn it freely but the motor wont pull.  At least not with an 8 inch pulley.

So I am getting a 3Hp motor like you recommend hydrocars, so it can drive the tractor alternator at full load on the rotor. Will get back once i set up the new motor with pulley and all.

But now i dont want to waste this setup that i already have...so can any one give me links to small light alternators that i can use to run with my 1/3HP motor.

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Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2008, 03:28:45 am »
oh man, you said 1/3, thats a small motor. i really cant see much you can do with that less HP. Alternators Can be monster machines depending on how you use them.. now if you want to take that small motor and spin an alternator it would be good to charge batteries with, IF the battery just needs a small charge, but if the battery needs to much charging it will pull that small motor down to much.

this is just what i think, i'm not even really sure that motor would even turn and alternator under any load.

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Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic
« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2008, 15:32:59 pm »
Hi all  my first post I like this altenator circuit   I'd like to add another altenator to my nissan pathfinder there's a place to mount another belt driven device on my motor ( I ASSUME IT'S FOR THE AC THAT I DON'T HAVE ) ..I think that anadditional altenator is the only way to get enough production without taxing my present altenator . any thoughts  is it feasible .
Bob 

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Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic
« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2008, 21:56:44 pm »
anyone in the western NY area?

I'm pretty handy with just about everything EXCEPT reading schematics and building circuit boards.

I'll drive over, bring some beer, and watch you build it. then pay you for your services. Hopefully retaining enough to build another or make adjustments.

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Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic
« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2008, 04:29:53 am »
I am running a 1/3 HP motor also. Yes its too small but it does work. I can get just around 1 amp 5 volts across the rotor but not set like the aternator schematic provided, and after that it pulls the motor down. However it seems the size of the motor must be larger than the amperage you want on your power hungry cell. My alternator is a Delco 10Si 63-70 amp. 1/3 HP is approx 250watts  /by 12 volts and get 20amps (240watts) across the cell. Maybe I havn't read somewhere but what is the size of the capacitor used accross the rotor provided in the schematic? Better yet what size cap is needed depending on the particular cell circuit load, does it matter? As I'm sure that cap size depends on your cell size maybe. My cell is 21 tubes in 7 triplets 12" long 1", 1 1/4", 1 1/2". Lots of gas and want more.

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Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic
« Reply #31 on: June 25, 2008, 04:51:17 am »
Maybe I should modify the above post a little. Running a alternator off a motor.
Lets use my alternator fogures of 63-70a possible off the alternator.
If 1/3hp of usable power = approx 250watts
If 1/2hp = approx 375watts
If 1hp = approx 750watts(746).
Motors efficencies are generally low 60 to 65% at the rated output.
To get the 1hp usable 750watts takes just over 1100watts of power to make in a motor.
In a 12vdc circuit from a converter or inverter it will take approx 100amps or close of 12vdc.
Also you should not run your equiptment at 100% so it needs to be larger. (keep the heating down).
In order to do this the automobile should be equipted with 150a alternator to start, with at least a spare high amperage battery for cell circuitry (start-up)
The larger alternator on your automobile will acomadate the redi-line and charging the battery's as well as automobile loads and usage.
Your 120vac converter or inverter should be approx 1250-1500watts
Is there any other 120v additive to the circuit?
Since the alternator with the setup above is 60+ amps possible, maybe the cell will be 20-40-60a dependent on size.
The motor will not draw its full current if it is not working its full output.
That converter or inverter will still be able to drive another transformer for some other part of the system.
The spare battery can also be used for more electronics.
It seems a 1500watt redi-line would be appropriate.
What do you think?