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Re: Re: Testing of Warps chokes
« Reply #72 on: May 06, 2010, 23:11:26 pm »
I should clarify, the above winding configuration I said will give you Warps results. I did not say they would give you Stan's results. There may or may not be a difference.

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Re: Re: Testing of Warps chokes
« Reply #73 on: May 06, 2010, 23:27:11 pm »
Here you go:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/bigbuba/VICDirection.png)
Look Carefully
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/bigbuba/VICDirection2.png)
Wow this is getting fun
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/bigbuba/VICDirection3.png)
*sigh*
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/bigbuba/VICDirection4.png)
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Re: Re: Testing of Warps chokes
« Reply #74 on: May 08, 2010, 09:46:51 am »
Yes you are right Don, Meyers diagrams shows that the chokes were connected inversely as you are showing!
Did you had Warps transformer connected when you tested the flyback ?
Thanks for your sharing.

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Re: Re: Testing of Warps chokes
« Reply #75 on: May 08, 2010, 12:10:17 pm »
I have seen the double-pulse effect with a bifilar connected in inverse, like shown in most of meyers' diagrams. But the current limiting effect is larger when connected in the same direction.

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Re: Re: Testing of Warps chokes
« Reply #76 on: May 08, 2010, 15:00:58 pm »
yes i was using warps step up tp check the chokes.

when you connect them inverse you can measure say 600 volts from ground to positive and 600 volts from ground to negative, when you have the start of the neg choke grounded you can tell that it creates a mirror voltage of 600 volts in the negative choke, which is supposed to happen.

more testing needs to be done, mistakes still could have been made, much more to learn and confirm, it would be nice to have a few of you collaborating with me so we can all learn faster

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Re: Re: Testing of Warps chokes
« Reply #77 on: May 08, 2010, 17:15:25 pm »
I'm lost, I can't figure out why so many of your chokes work. I had a handful of them and none worked, Trust me I tested them.

Now, the choke I sent you as I mentioned when voltage goes so high across that choke, It will start to arc internally and burn itself up. There are 2 things that can happen to these chokes.

1. The voltage from the choke gets so high, "it arcs and burns." (Only seen with a stronger transformer.)
2. The choke will smoke due to (Frequency) and not voltage or current. (RF Burn.)

The Rf Burn, I seen this with another choke I have. There is evidence on my choke you have, that much higher voltages has been applied to it than what the big transformer can offer. Its as if the choke becomes a Capacitor and arcs internally.


I can't seem to understand how so many of your chokes work, For me, only that one choke worked. All I can say is (I wish I were there.)

Also, I sent a transformer with a very High secondary resistance. This could be the cause of some of your chokes working. When I origonaly tested the choke and found that it was abnormal, It was on a much smaller transformer which generated much larger voltages.

(Perhaps you can find a choke that will not work.) Rather than finding chokes that does work?

I can send you some more chokes that I know does not work, and if they work for you something is wrong. This leaves me scratching my head, As I tested several chokes which lead me to believe it was uniq, Now every choke you pick up works? I'm confused at the setup.

I say keep your cores that work, and when others have problems gaining the voltage, Give them or sell them a choke that you know works. This way everyone can test together.

You guy's seem to be gaining HV across tap water, Just as stan mentioned. Perhaps one day it can be Tuned, or increased?

Something strange is Indeed going on, and I feel as if it should be taken a step further.

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Re: Re: Testing of Warps chokes
« Reply #78 on: May 08, 2010, 17:37:55 pm »
Warp, the cores I am using are from flybacks, which are designed to operate in the khz range like we want, so maybe that is an important key.

Also, I wound them just like Dynodon described Stan's chokes for the VSPC, so that might be an important key as well.

I have been drawing some diagrams trying to figure out how these chokes interact, to understand the proper way to connect them, and I am onto something here. More tests will be done soon.

I'd like to try some of your other chokes if you wish to send them!

Step by step we need to understand thins and then build upon that, continued testing and turning, then better measurements and coil design... i'll work!

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Re: Re: Testing of Warps chokes
« Reply #79 on: May 09, 2010, 03:40:12 am »
I built a step up transformer on top of my 24 gage chokes, to make an all-in-one VIC

My First all-in-one VIC:
The chokes are described above.

The primary is 3.5 layers (aiming for 4 but ran out of wire) of 54 turns/layer, 24 gage, BIFILAR, yes the primary is bifilar, but not like the chokes, it's bifilar in such a way as to increase the inductance, why? It's easier and faster to wind it this way!

The secondary is 8 layers of 30 gage wire, about 120 turns/layer.

All coils wound in the same direction. Magnetic fields additive.
I am still experimenting with this VIC, and have not gotten the results I desire yet, more tests to do.

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I used the step up coil from this all-in-one VIC with my VSPC Chokes to make the video below:


In this set up the only thing from warp I am using is the pulsing circuit, I have replaced his VIC piece by piece, and am still able to produce his results, and understand how to do it.

more experiments to come... more to learn... more to confirm... more to build...