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Germans claim a selfsustaining generator with drycell
« on: April 28, 2010, 18:58:35 pm »
Hi,

A couple of Germans claim to run their small generator set on HHO and is selfsustaining.

Go have a look at their video's.

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Re: Germans claim a selfsustaining generator with drycell
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2010, 01:40:19 am »
Question: are they the ones that make the cells? and do they sell them?

In my opinion if the answer is yes then this is a publicity stunt to sell their cells.

Stevie, you should be able to prove them right or wrong soon.

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Re: Germans claim a selfsustaining generator with drycell
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2010, 09:44:29 am »
It's an open source cell and i have no doubt in their intentions as it's the admins of PESWiki and Overunity.com that are creating the hype about it when the researchers said that they don't want it.
It's also not sure if the generator is really self-sustaining.

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Re: Germans claim a selfsustaining generator with drycell
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2010, 11:26:40 am »
Its a very basic drycell with big holes for gas output and waterinput.
My estimation of the efficiency of that cell is max 80% accoording to Faraday's law.
My new drycell will be around 100% efficient.

Still looking for some gears like those guys have, Claudio... They are difficult to find.
I choose the same concept of the ignition system as they have, as you know.
The ideas of who we talked about does not include a variable timing system.
I am cutting now everyday  gaskets for the new cell.......I need 100 gaskets. Because they are small in bordersize, its a very difficult job to cut them properly.

Cannot wait to run tests again with my genset with help of the new cell, ionizer and PFC circuit.
Then i will prove if it is possible or not to have a selfsustaining system.


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Re: Germans claim a selfsustaining generator with drycell
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2010, 15:32:16 pm »
Hello,
Sorry but what is the format of these video ?
Thank you

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Re: Germans claim a selfsustaining generator with drycell
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2012, 15:13:37 pm »
Steve,

How did your last build go with regard to getting to self sustaining?

The German video appeared to be straight up electrolysis so it would not be likely that they could get to a self sustaining state. If best case real world is 50KW/H2 Kg, and Faraday was 33KW/H2 Kg, and 1 Kg of H2 has 12-19 KW of power value in it, they would appear to be a good ways away from anything close to self sustaining?

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Re: Germans claim a selfsustaining generator with drycell
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2012, 15:23:39 pm »
The video format is .flv
It should work if you append the file extension onto the name.

They don't claim to produce hydrogen with an efficiency of >1, although the ANTON cell is more efficient than available Dry cells. See measurement videos here: https://www.youtube.com/user/MrEntelecheia/videos According to the forum entries they were just as surprised as anyone else that the motor ran in a closed loop. Btw i have all the parts they used in that video (except the generator) and if i finally have some time i'll try to check how much of "HHO" gas i need to run something like this.

btw Steve can you answer my PM? I have lost the account information of my main account.

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If best case real world is 50KW/H2 Kg, and Faraday was 33KW/H2 Kg, and 1 Kg of H2 has 12-19 KW of power value in it, they would appear to be a good ways away from anything close to self sustaining?
The units of this literally don't make sense.

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Re: Germans claim a selfsustaining generator with drycell
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2012, 15:35:03 pm »
Thanks for the clarification, I guess I read it that they could keep it going on a truly self sustaining basis, which led to the observation about creating more hydrogen energy than they were consuming in making the HHO to begin with.

I have seen this done many times on a short term basis, so by the title it appeared they were doing something extraordinary.

It will be extraordinary when we can put in 10 KW of electricity to make 1 Kg of H2.