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Re: Breaking the nitrogen molecule
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2010, 19:18:19 pm »
To break nitrogen using Plasma we need

molybdenum oxide and or tungsten oxide

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molybdenum_trioxide

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tungsten%28III%29_oxide

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Re: Breaking the nitrogen molecule
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Making the Magic Gas to run an ICE
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2010, 19:25:49 pm »
Ok, now that I finished the bike generator I will start testing some new stuff.

I don't believe that one can generate enough HHO to self run an ICE, I know I know, there are some videos on youtube trying to prove other wise. but I think they are fake. Believe or not it is very very easy to make a video and to show an ICE running on nothing but AIR. The trick is to add gasoline in the crank case. the engine will then run on the gasoline vapor. so now you know that it is very easy to fake an ICE running on any amount of HHO.


I do still have some hope in running an engine on HHO, but not in pure hho. I think a new gas needs to be created.

not sure what that new gas will be, but something containing small amount of HHO + water vapor and nitrogen.

so my new quest starts here...   

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Re: Breaking the nitrogen molecule
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2010, 20:32:41 pm »
Hi electrojolt

I believe that running an engine on pure hho is quite possible and steve tests are the proof of it. I believe now we just need to find the way to create the gas with less energy than it is traditionally needed.

I just found a possible explanation on why the charged air would give a better performance or maybe do more than that..

Its based on that you don't inject only hho in the engine but also nitrogen (inert gas) and more OXYGEN,

Being we able to create OH only at the output of the motor would give us the ability to have maybe the double of water molecules generated at the combustion process leading to an increase in energy.   

It's known in science that we can charge an object with electrostatic induction without killing the dipole. (with no spark) (no energy or almost no (force) consume) (like magnetism voltage field become a force)

I don't know if its possible but maybe if the charge on the gas is even greater might be possible to create other molecules on the output like OOH or OOOH something like that.

ALL this have only one problem that bores me out, even if this way we would need to produce less hydrogen lowering the costs and size of the equipment, we would still consume oxygen from the atmosphere as much as we are already doing while using gasoline...  except that part of oxygen witch where to link up with the carbon atoms... 
This worries me.


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Re: Breaking the nitrogen molecule
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2010, 21:15:35 pm »
you miss understood me. i know we can run an engine on hho alone. you need a lot of hho. what i mean is self sustain an engine using hho. Stevie is close but not there yet and he is making a a large amount of hho using a lot of energy from the wall outlet.

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Re: Making the Magic Gas to run an ICE
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2010, 00:20:49 am »
I talked with a friend of mine that knows chemistry.
he said if i break the nitrogen molecule each nitrogen atom will be very pissed off, and if it becomes in contact with water it will rip the water molecule apart. it will make a mix of NH3 NO3 and some other mixes.

hummm... Now I really want to get nitrogen pissed off.


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Re: Making the Magic Gas to run an ICE
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2010, 00:29:34 am »
I talked with a friend of mine that knows chemistry.
he said if i break the nitrogen molecule each nitrogen atom will be very *  off, and if it becomes in contact with water it will rip the water molecule apart. it will make a mix of NH3 NO3 and some other mixes.

hummm... Now I really want to get nitrogen *  off.

So, now we just make the nitrogen a bit less electron heavy?
How do we do that?

Steve




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Re: Making the Magic Gas to run an ICE
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2010, 00:46:34 am »
Bonding Energy of N2: 945 kJ/mol
Bonding Energy of H2O: 459 kJ/mol