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Re: How To Construct & make a working VIC
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2008, 02:01:16 am »
not sure what you mean, i read in the patents that the vic is used to make thermal explosive energy on demand without the use of a fuel cell. i strongly doubt that the vic you see in the patent is the actual vic.

thermal means HOT. i ran a test on super heated water, i can say that with high sparks it does make balls of flames, but the flames come and go, i really didn't see how it would be useful, i didn't have it under compression either though.

i think stanley still has me confused, the way he uses the steam resonator is alot like the kelvin water drop generator, but also he has his vic mixed in with it, then again he dont, he is very confusing!  im still kinda lost, but it would be good to compare the steam resonator to the kelvins water drop generator.

i have used a high voltage TV coil and a coke bottle cap full of water, i managed to get a flame under water for some time, and i noticed the water got so hot it started to steam, i've tried to do it again several times with no succes, i was using the lawton circuit to pulse the transformer with both timers in use, from the best of my memery i hit the frequency with the cap labeled 103k, and the first timer just made slower pulses.

after i got the flame under the water and removed the coil, the water turned white, and it had what looked like toilet paper in it, hrmm. 

EDIT: OH yes, i see what you're asking now, yes the vic is all that is needed to run a car on water according to stan, he will screw the vic into the car, it replaces the plugs, he has a water line going to the vic as well as a coil wire, and i think he has an external device hooked to the vice, not to sure. you should see the video, try youtube, i forget what its called but it tells you alot about it.
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Re: How To Construct & make a working VIC
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2008, 06:33:18 am »
I wish you remembered what utube vid it was ...
He also used ionized gas dont forget that

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Re: How To Construct & make a working VIC
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2008, 09:06:53 am »
A control and driver circuits for a hydrogen gas fuel producing cell

International Publication Number:  WO 92/07861

Figure 1

Re: voltage intensifier circuit, phase lock loop, resonant scanning circuit, pulse indicator circuit.

I have not seen any of these things when looking at the Lawton circuit.  Maybe I'm missing something.

Meyer claimed that these combined circuits with others per Figure 1 would convert 5 gallons of water in an hour using a 0.5 inch in diameter stainless steel rod and a 0.75 inch inside diameter cylinder that together extend concentrically about 3.0 inches with respect to each other.  page 12

Patent filing date 2 november 1990
Publication date 14 May 1992



i have seen this also. The only conclusion i can make out of this, is that he used a resonance tank circuit. That would have included the wfc as a capacitor. Because of changes in the wfc meaning temp changes, the capacitance changes as well. To monitor those changes and to keep the circuit in resonance, you need a pll locking circuit to control those variables and auto adjust the frequency.

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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2008, 11:52:08 am »
Yes I am working on a PLL circuit now to keep the Water Fuel Cell in resonance all the time.
But I can not talk about it as an open source.

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Re: How To Construct & make a working VIC
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2008, 14:04:41 pm »
Resonance of a circuit involving capacitors and inductors occurs because the collapsing magnetic field of the inductor generates an electric current in its windings that charges a capacitor, and the discharging capacitor produces an electric current that builds the magnetic field in the inductor, this process is repeated. When the inductive and capacitive reactance equals, we have resonance. You can not calculate resonance without first, knowing the inductance of the inductor, and the capacitance of the capacitor. In your case, the capacitor or capacitors, are your pipes, along with what they are submerged in. The total capacitance depends on variables. The pipe length, thickness, type of metal, spacing, and the water used.
Every fuel sell, of this type, will have a different resonant frequency. Remember, Stan reported, it does not matter if you use rain water, tap water, salt water, or snow. That was one of the reasons he used a PLL. Each of these will change the capacitor value, therefore, changing the resonant frequency. I stated in a earlier post, FREQURNCY GENERATOR QUESTION, why a PLL is necessary. Check it out! If you like, i`ll provide more on the PLL, and a means to provide resonant lock. Interested?
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Re: How To Construct & make a working VIC
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2008, 15:14:06 pm »
Yes I am working on a PLL circuit now to keep the Water Fuel Cell in resonance all the time.
But I can not talk about it as an open source.

Hi Plasma,

Welcome to Ionizationx.com!
Its good to have somebody here who is bussy with the resonance concept and also with Tesla stuff
For me, its going to be time to prove some concepts.

There are 3 options:
1. parallel coil and wfc
2. serial coils and wfc
3. resonance in "resonance chokes"

Remember that water starts to "ring" above 1500V.
The most logic tank circuit is a parallel tank circuit because that gives in resonance a high voltage and low amperage.

Important: normally a tankcircuit CANNOT work with a diode in it!

Thats it for this time.
C u laters

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Re: How To Construct & make a working VIC
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2008, 11:37:56 am »
Hi Tim,

Thanks for responding. I already have all patents of all major people in this field and also from Stan the man.
I know this VIC drawings out of my head and on a bad day, i even have nightmares from them... :D

I don not know what you field of expertiece is, but I am from education level a High frequency electronic engineer. It not my job anymore for 20 years, but i do still enjoy some of that knowledge.
And as a child i rebuild cars too......So this hobbie is fitting me quite well.

The reason I asked, is because there is something in those patents of Stan that doesnt make "normal"sense.
For once, is the diode in his circuit not ok, if you talk about resonance. You can use one for doubling voltage in a dc step up voltage doubler.

Secondly, the other strange thing is the core of the VIC.
Not the material, but the way all coils are on it.
It means that all coils are getting the magnet pulses of the primairy coil. That coil is the first coil who is getting magnetisd. The reaction is that all other coils are getting a magnetic field and when that field collapses, you will have a BEMF reaction, so you have a current running throu ALL the coils!

But any way. Its time to figure that out and to setup some high voltage resonance circuits.
I orderd 2 neon circuits who are putting out a 7kv unloaded, and the will put out a 1.5kv with load.
I got my LCR meter last week and I will have a HV probe next week coming.
It s time to prove LC resonance with a wfc.

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Ps.
I also continue my alternator/steam setup....That setup proved it self already!
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Re: How To Construct & make a working VIC
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2008, 20:23:47 pm »
I think you waist time here

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