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Re: How To Construct & make a working VIC
« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2008, 10:27:10 am »
When you turn the wall switch on the light bulb will emit heat as it restricts the amp flow from the utility pole. The wires connecting normal household lighting and other electronic devices is also called conductors, we just use the term utility wire.


The point being made to this is that when you turn the light on current will flow threw the conductor to its source, where the source is where energy is released in the form of heat. The source is always the most resistant part of the circuit.

Take the headlights on your car for example, if you was to remove the lights from your car and short circuit it with a pair of plairs the wires would either Blow or the battery would blow. The conductor wires would become the most resistant part of the circuit. Never arc a car batteries terminals, my grandpa almost lost his eyesight when a car battery exploded in his face from arcing the terminals, he was rushed to the hospital.

Point being made that energy finds its way to the most resistance component of the circuit in the form of heat, light or some other kinetic energy source, and it finds its way to the most resistance part of the circuit threw conductors. without conductors the energy can not reach its resistance target.



Now that you understand that energy flows threw conductors to try to find its way to the most resistant part of the circuit we can applie this to the water fuel cell. Take a light and place it between the wfc and the car battery, you'll notice the light will shine and no hydrogen will be emitted from the fuel cell. Also don't forget that you're using conductors to make these connections.

why does the fuel cell allow the light to light but not emit hydrogen? well The fuel cells resistance in the circuit is not great as the resistance of the light, so the light wins the resistive war and the fuel cell has to surrender into being a conductor, if you was to remove the light and wire the conductive wires together in that very spot then you would see hydrogen because the fuel cell would become the most resistive part of the circuit. 


Now that you understand that by placing a light in series with the fuel cell this will cause the light to light and the fuel cell to become a conductor just like the wires used to connect the components. Now that you understand that the light is a resistor it is good to look at how chokes work. Chokes restrict current!

When you apply power to a choke, or coil of wire you're simply charging up the magnetic core or field around the choke. When this field is at its strongest the choke is restricting the most amount of current flow. Also when the maximum amount of current is being restricted by the choke the choke has its maximum magnetic charge. When a choke restricts amps it is acting as a resistor. Due to the previouse test, when a choke is being pulsed and restricting amp flow we now understand that the water fuel cell is a conductor just like the conductive wires making the connections.

What happens when the chokes are discharging? well the polarity of the transformer is not seriesed up with the Collapsing of the chokes, meaning this is where most people fail in getting the vic to work. In the dave lawton circuit dave would pulse the chokes then add a crowbar diode, this diode would allow the chokes to make connection to the cell on its pulse off time.. Unfortanitely there is no crowbar in the meyers VIC circuit so the VIC transformer must act as a crowbar. Buy simply pulsing the transformer you will not see this crowbar action take effect in the transformer.

you have to pulse the chokes, and before the chokes collapse you must add another pulse of the same polarity, this is where it gets confusing. More on this later, i just gotta run, darn.

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Re: How To Construct & make a working VIC
« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2008, 11:30:23 am »
sorry for the way i ended that, but i had an instant message, but anyhow... if you place a 100 ohm in series with a 100,000 ohm resistor and you hook that directly to a power source wich one would blow first?? well, the 100,000 ohm resistor would try and resist more current, and the 100 ohm resistor would act as a conductor at this point, so the 100,000 ohm resistor would blow.

so it is also clear that the light is resisting more than the wfc when in series, the light is conducting heat where the water fuel cell is hardly resisting at all.

if you was to applie a light bulb across the fuel cell what would happen? again put your resistors in parallel. the 100,000 ohm resistor would blow first, what does this mean? Well if you hook a light bulb in parallel with a fuel cell, due to the resistance of the light bulb vs the fuel cell, hydrogen will be produced, but given the fact that there is a light there, the fuel cell has to give up some of its energy to the light. so the light is lit by the battery and not the fuel cell lol. Most people have problems understanding this, All this relates back to common sense! stuff people hardly use anymore.
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Re: How To Construct & make a working VIC
« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2008, 01:52:49 am »
i can't seem to find a steup toroidial transformer....i dont know if my searches are right or anything but i am going to build the vic on 2 seperate cores instead of all windings on one.....but i just don't know where to find a toroidial core that meets the patents requirements (isolated and step up) it seems i cant find both of those factors in one toroid....if i were to wind my own toroid how would i go about winding the secondary??? would i just be able to wind it directly over the top of the primary?? if so i will jump on this immediately.....as of now i am getting a custom made laminated steel core for the bifilar coil to be wound on.....

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Re: How To Construct & make a working VIC
« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2008, 02:04:19 am »
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Try micrometals.com for a powdered iron core.

here's were I built a bob boyce toroid  / step up transformer

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Re: How To Construct & make a working VIC
« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2008, 02:13:45 am »
ok so if i were to wind the primary onto the core as you did that insulate those already insulated wires with tape as you did then begin to wind my secondary with more windings of a different sized wire...this would be a working step up isolation transformer?? and yours did work? and if so what was your ratio of input ot output??? thank you!!

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Re: How To Construct & make a working VIC
« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2008, 02:50:22 am »
For your ss 430 wire just do a search of custom wire companies, Here's a good one that can provide any conductor, any size with teflon insulation!!! There not trying to keep people from selling the items, you just have to know where to look...Oh and You shoudl probably call them as they rarely respond to emails....There website even states "No job too small"!!!

 http://www.phoenixwireinc.com/index.html

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Re: How To Construct & make a working VIC
« Reply #38 on: August 18, 2008, 03:17:27 am »
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Actually, This coil is a little different. the secondary is wrapped first(180 wraps), Then three primaries(48 wraps each). Your initial power is routed negative to the cell, positive to the secondary, then secondary to the cell. the three primaries are pulsed at three different frequencies. boosting the positive secondary up to 40 amps over what it was. Also piggybacking it with a carrier wave of the three frequencies to create the harmonics.

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Re: How To Construct & make a working VIC
« Reply #39 on: August 18, 2008, 07:54:03 am »
spike i know your coil was different and uses harmonics....but i understand hte general idea of what makes an isolated transformer....have you hooked up the vic transformer the way that most everyone else considers it to be hooked up...this is what i am going to attempt to do..

i know there is no blocking diode...
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/connection-1.jpg)

all my confusion seems to be around connections
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/toroidial.jpg)

is the toroid connection correct?? and is the overall connecting correct???