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Re: Tube cell reloaded
« Reply #64 on: April 26, 2010, 19:13:25 pm »
Voltage depends, first it was 20V/1A overall, dropped to 19.5V/0.9A with time.
I have the old and long tube pictured in this thread in series with 4 new tubes in a separate container, both old tube and new tubes getting about half the voltage (~10V). Doesn't really matter it seems, the gas production is dependant on current, not voltage. the change in production is pretty interesting though.

The water is tap water mixed with distilled water (what was left in my container), no electrolytes.

Ok, I see, you performing the same tests I did a few years back. from my experiments I found that the brown stuff is created by the contaminants in the water and the use of higher voltage (over 2.8 volts). I actually think it is the bleach found in tap water.

I have used water from air conditioning drippings and all the way up to 150 volts and the water stays clean, but as soon as I use tap water and voltages over 2.8 volts, the brown junk starts to build up. So my conclusion is that it has nothing to do with conditioning.

if you add some additives like KOH to your tap water, then you drop your voltage to under 2.8V the production is more efficient and no more brown junk.

 

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Re: Tube cell reloaded
« Reply #65 on: April 26, 2010, 19:39:39 pm »
University you say? Is there anyone there you work with that might have access to a testing facility for these strange byproducts produced by our cells?

When Ravi was more in the limelight back in the day, he revealed he was noticing a faint glow radiating from inside the tubes. At the time, I was less educated in the art and I went to investigate cavitation and sonoluminescence. But, now I know he was seeing a coronal discharge of some sort. I am currently researching coronal discharges and have just recently found that it is very possible the UV created from the coronal discharge may in fact be causing a photoelectric effect from the cathode or maybe even the anode. At this point I can only assume that any coating on either electrode would inhibit this effect. If in fact, we can photo-ionize stainless steel with UV, then we will have an abundance of free electrons in the medium which may be influenced by high voltages and certain frequencies to cause further ionization by collision. That's just an assumption so far though.


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Re: Tube cell reloaded
« Reply #66 on: April 26, 2010, 20:38:37 pm »

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« Reply #67 on: April 26, 2010, 20:47:12 pm »
I don't think the photoelectric effect has anything to do with it. I once read Ravi did his youtube videos at night, cell's wouldn't work in a dark room without uv light and when i was in school the teacher had a large uv lamp shine onto the metal to get the electroscope to move.
I don't know anyone from chemistry yet whom i could ask for identifying the coating.

Probably 2.8V and electrolyte would make the process more efficient, but if ravi's findings and the pdf-explanation are true it's not normal electrolysis.

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« Reply #68 on: April 26, 2010, 21:23:21 pm »
I don't think the photoelectric effect has anything to do with it. I once read Ravi did his youtube videos at night, cell's wouldn't work in a dark room without uv light and when i was in school the teacher had a large uv lamp shine onto the metal to get the electroscope to move.
I don't know anyone from chemistry yet whom i could ask for identifying the coating.

Probably 2.8V and electrolyte would make the process more efficient, but if ravi's findings and the pdf-explanation are true it's not normal electrolysis.

I believe that Ravi results are fake. just BS

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Re: Tube cell reloaded
« Reply #69 on: April 27, 2010, 07:42:01 am »
If you view ravies videos you will see Bubbles at startup. This Indicates Distilled water and a very small gap. I use to think the water had dish soap in it, I later learned that Distilled water had this affect.

At one time I uploaded a video showing this same affect, My video that contained distilled water looked Identical to ravies Gas production when compared. It has nothing to do with conditioning.

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Re: Tube cell reloaded
« Reply #70 on: April 27, 2010, 07:49:45 am »
This Video I am using Distilled Water.

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Re: Tube cell reloaded
« Reply #71 on: April 29, 2010, 10:05:41 am »
Tried DC today, same amount of current = same amount of gas.
With conditioning it's more like switching from less efficient to more efficient and not from very efficient to overunity.

I'm out of the wfc stuff now as there's nothing promising left to follow, will watch Donald's thread though. I'm directing my energies into the more 'real' types of renewable technologies now.