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Re: Finaly getting results
« Reply #40 on: February 22, 2010, 04:28:11 am »
heres whats on my mind and where im at with my rotary vic project.. i ran out of wire when i was winding my coils and had to wait for some work to get more wire. yesterday i ordered some double sided copper clad for my diode board, some insulating paper, and some more wire..  i am using 27 gauge and will have 30 winds secondary and 30 winds for each bifilars..  this will give me a total of 90 per cavity.. i have a big alternator like stans and i am hopping that 90 total will not be to much...

john, did u have a hard time getting 47 in the cavity or did you find you still had room? i would rather take the time to reduce the winds now rather then later if i need to...

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Re: Finaly getting results
« Reply #41 on: February 22, 2010, 09:08:17 am »
heres whats on my mind and where im at with my rotary vic project.. i ran out of wire when i was winding my coils and had to wait for some work to get more wire. yesterday i ordered some double sided copper clad for my diode board, some insulating paper, and some more wire..  i am using 27 gauge and will have 30 winds secondary and 30 winds for each bifilars..  this will give me a total of 90 per cavity.. i have a big alternator like stans and i am hopping that 90 total will not be to much...

john, did u have a hard time getting 47 in the cavity or did you find you still had room? i would rather take the time to reduce the winds now rather then later if i need to...

Definately had room for more , but obviously it depends on the stator . You need to be able to fit 2 loops in one channel the way Kevin does it (trailing edge of last loop and leading edge of next loop) .
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Re: Finaly getting results
« Reply #42 on: February 22, 2010, 22:41:13 pm »
Hello steve , its a 1.5 Kw which is 2 HP (1500 Watts) single phase motor so its quite a bit . I read in the paperwork that its about 8 amps @ full load .

John

Yeah thats the issue with this , it was designed to be a fuel saver add on thats ran with your petrol enginer , maybe you could switch halfway after getting it running right if you had all the gas processor tech to go along , never will it be overall OU even if it was resonating and producing extra gas .

You could use that much power and a cooling system and produce 15 LPM with some parralel car batteries plain electrolysis .

In the industry we never use single phase , its a complicated and costly device to maintain and has less torque and speed for the same amount of energy than 3 phase . I would suggest to find a 3 phase motor with some big gears and a make yourself a 120 volt high amp DC powersupply or some batteries and buy a 3 phase speed control driver pwm . You will save about half the wattage this way and you will get higher torque and speed and be able to reach higher frequencies , you cant experiment properly without a speed control driver , that thing is a must . These are common in the industry and usually cost about 150$ for a nice driver .

I am currently looking into this , I believe can switch my oscillator into a 3 phase pwm driver with 9 extra components and a pcb for all those and mosfet drivers not ring too much .

The motor is purely for testing purposes , i will be using the setup on a car . I know single phase motors are not the best . There is a way of using a three phase motor on a single phase using caps .... its called rotor verter , i havent dug deep into it but looks easy enough :
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Rotoverter

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Re: Finaly getting results
« Reply #43 on: February 23, 2010, 02:42:43 am »
Dont dig deeper than you already have , that thing is a scam


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« Reply #44 on: February 23, 2010, 09:24:43 am »
Dont dig deeper than you already have , that thing is a scam

Thanks Dankie , there is a hell of a lot of disinfo on the net ey .

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Re: Finaly getting results
« Reply #45 on: February 23, 2010, 15:59:15 pm »

The motor is purely for testing purposes , i will be using the setup on a car . I know single phase motors are not the best . There is a way of using a three phase motor on a single phase using caps ....

You can use a one phase freq regulator to a three phase motor like I've used in my setup:
http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,1074.0.html
Works great and uses less energy because its only using that much energy to keep the rpms stable.

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Re: Finaly getting results
« Reply #46 on: February 23, 2010, 21:05:15 pm »

You can use a one phase freq regulator to a three phase motor like I've used in my setup:
http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,1074.0.html
Works great and uses less energy because its only using that much energy to keep the rpms stable.

Looks interesting , can you buy them off the shelf ?

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