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Re: Ionization of HHO, the hunt for magnet gas or change of flamecolor
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2010, 13:46:28 pm »
Hi Steve
                      just browsing here, I will ask some dum questions,  what was the size hole in your gun the tip nozel hole?

                    What I am going to ask you to do maybe extreemly dangerious,

                    are you trying to ionise the HHO, I do not think that you will be able to with HV. however there maybe a way that you could intoduce the HHO into an ionized air stream not sure what it would acheive but it could be fun or dam right dangerious, you would not need high voltage to do it.
if you are interested I will draw up what I was thinking.   
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Re: Ionization of HHO, the hunt for magnet gas or change of flamecolor
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2010, 22:26:55 pm »
Hi Steve
                      just browsing here, I will ask some dum questions,  what was the size hole in your gun the tip nozel hole?

                    What I am going to ask you to do maybe extreemly dangerious,

                    are you trying to ionise the HHO, I do not think that you will be able to with HV. however there maybe a way that you could intoduce the HHO into an ionized air stream not sure what it would acheive but it could be fun or dam right dangerious, you would not need high voltage to do it.
if you are interested I will draw up what I was thinking.   
aussepom

Well, i died almost, for the second time in my HHO carrieer....so a up to the third one.... ;)

To answer your question: yes, please. You already helped me a lot with my current 90% efficient platecell, Brian.
If you have any idea's on this ionizing issue, please do so.

Steve

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Re: Ionization of HHO, the hunt for magnet gas or change of flamecolor
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2010, 12:20:32 pm »
Go Here
http://www.pat2pdf.org/pat2pdf/foo.pl
And enter Patent # 4519357

You May be able to use this HV with HHO as one Electrode is isolated by Glass tube.
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Re: Ionization of HHO, the hunt for magnet gas or change of flamecolor
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2010, 00:00:23 am »
@ Frozenwater

Thank you for this patent. This topic was to find out if we could get a magnetic HHO. Sofar i nor others could not prove or confirm this theory of Stan Meyer.
I do however managed to make an ambient air ionizer that works pretty well with an engine running 100% on HHO.

@ Aussepom
So this is the schematic of the Ausse injector?
At this moment i am not sure if the HHO should be ionized with help of an ionizer. The proces might be difficult and dangerous. The end product which runs an engine is as far as i can see a mix of H, O, N and multiple comby's like
ammonia NH3. To get a part NH3 we only have to ionize ambient air.
I have not the test equipment to measure the types of gas in my engine, but i seen the effects of negative ionization of ambient air.

What do you suggest here? Should i try to ionize the HHO as well? Some parts of the HHO from electrolysis is already ionized....


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Re: Ionization of HHO, the hunt for magnet gas or change of flamecolor
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2010, 00:52:30 am »
Wouldn't an injector approach be the proper application in this situation?

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Re: Ionization of HHO, the hunt for magnet gas or change of flamecolor
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2010, 02:45:49 am »
Hi Steve
                  this is not the main unit but the little pipe injector, Now to get H2 from NH3 is easy it is done as part of my waste treatment process, why is it easy because the H2 is 'loosly bonded' as that there is one extra H , Hydrogen will only come away or separate in 'pairs', this is why Hydroxcy is a 'streatched gas' unit, NH3 will loose one H quite easily, if done in proxcimity of more NH3, two of the H will form H2 as a gas and float to the surface, the trick is it has to be done in low oxygen water.
As for the hydroxy then there is another way that you could get it to the ionisation stage, this does involve a magnetic field, and should work, it does on 'air'.
how ever this is a cost in power so I do not know if it will save any thing in the long run.
but providing that the power is all comming from the ICE I supose that it does not matter.  it is a simple set up, I will try and draw it up fo you.
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Re: Ionization of HHO, the hunt for magnet gas or change of flamecolor
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2010, 10:02:20 am »
Hi Steve
                  this is not the main unit but the little pipe injector, Now to get H2 from NH3 is easy it is done as part of my waste treatment process, why is it easy because the H2 is 'loosly bonded' as that there is one extr H , Hydrogen will only come away or separate in 'pairs', this is why Hydroxcy is a 'streatched gas' unit, NH3 will loose on H quite easily, if done in proxcimity of more NH3, two of the H will form H2 as a gas and float to the surface, the trick is it has to be done in low oxygen water.
As for the hydroxy then there is another way that you could get it to the ionisation stage, this does involve a magnetic field, and should work, it does on 'air'.
how ever this is a cost in power so I do not know if it will save any thing in the long run.
but providing that the power is all comming from the ICE I supose that it does not matter.  it is a simple set up, I will try and draw it up fo you.
aussepom

Please do so. Your designs have worked always and are very good.

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Re: Ionization of HHO, the hunt for magnet gas or change of flamecolor
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2010, 15:08:53 pm »
Hi Steve
  the process is known, and is used, but to apply it in this way has not been used as far as I know.
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