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Re: Steorn Orbo
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2010, 18:17:51 pm »
yea but whats the name of this devices  :D

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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2010, 18:41:39 pm »
optical isolator, optical coupling device, optocoupler, photocoupler, or photoMOS

Is this what you are looking for.

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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2010, 19:08:49 pm »
Thanks i found phototransistors or optocouplers before. the way i understand it is that both led and photo-diode or transistor are inside a dark casing, both input and output are electrical. i can't think of a method to recognize e.g. a black/white difference or one revolution of a spinning device. probably with a led on the spinning part itself but that's not the case with naudin. there must be an existing part for that.

well i could use a laser pointer to shine onto the rotating part and install a little mirror on it so that every rotation the laser light is reflected onto a photo transistor. but seeing so many replications there must be an easier way  ;D


after more research i found that the CNY70 will fit my needs.
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Re: Steorn Orbo
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2010, 00:04:18 am »
I think I know what you mean, maybe it was called a schmidt trigger device or component.

Pickup there could be photo or magnetic sensor.

Maybe there's a protruding tab that cuts the sensor like one thats found on a floppy drive.
The tab might be on the back side of that Naudin photo and just revolves around cutting signal every revolution.

Floppy drive sensor is probably easy to come up with and use for this.

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Re: Steorn Orbo
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2010, 02:43:24 am »
I asked a youtuber what he used and should be getting a response . Ive seen many OU claims that are real but the power density is not there @ this stage .

I wont make one myself now because it would be pointless besides for youtube kicks and wasting if  theres 1000 engineers work it out with them complex magnetic fields and sell a 2000$ generator , this type of thing has very low power right now .

If it works then we should see a product soon for like 2000$ very soon . That is a guarantee of human nature .



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Re: Steorn Orbo
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2010, 04:34:36 am »
The Orbo works basically by attracting the magnets to the toroid then pulsing the toroid to cancel the attraction just as it passes, so the rotor coasts by. For this to work you must have the magnets spaced out... which is why they have 4, one each 90 degrees.

You could scale this up by increasing the diameter, which allows you to add more magnets and still have the needed spacing, or add more rotors on the same shaft.

But you are still "coasting" past the magnetic attraction once you turn it off, so it makes it hard to pull much torque out of this to power a load.

If you want to get anywhere with this, you would have to invest a lot of time and money. You would need a multi-phase system where you always have a lot more phases in attraction mode while one is coasting by, so you can maintain some amount of torque and momentum.

If anyone is seriously interested in this, I could help you with a design and machine work, but I am not spending any money on this.

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Re: Steorn Orbo
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2010, 10:34:12 am »
If you want to get anywhere with this, you would have to invest a lot of time and money.
What is everyone doing with the water fuel cell research? ;)

Anyway, i'm not a developer, only interest and semester break. To reconsider buying into the developer stage i'd have to see the test data first. And even then,  419€ (the scam number  :-X) is a lot of money for a student, although it's worth for a real effect.
Of course this would have to be engineered further, but why am i becoming an engineer ;) I see so many orbo "replications" at the moment on overunity.com or youtube and most of them don't have any similarity except the magnets. jnaudin is to my knowledge the only one who focused on the key principles of the demonstrations and his replication looks pretty good. he has repeated the first demos of steorn and i'm hoping he will try to to their last "experiment" too.
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Re: Steorn Orbo
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2010, 16:15:01 pm »
Is there a time limit to buying a developer kit?

Looks to me like the developer kit just lets you play with their computer software.

I would say build a device... JNL has enough clues there... then if it works and you want to start a company selling the stuff, then go and buy your development license.

Do they even have a patent? What is stopping you from just using the technology anyway?

I agree the wfc tech takes time and money too, but we have a lot more information to work with, and we can see Stan driving around the dune buggy on water, it offers way more promise.

As far as magnetic motors, the Flynn patent shows the best promise in my opinion.