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Re: Steorn Orbo
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2010, 16:27:24 pm »
Is there a time limit to buying a developer kit?

Looks to me like the developer kit just lets you play with their computer software.

I would say build a device... JLN has enough clues there... then if it works and you want to start a company selling the stuff, then go and buy your development license.

Do they even have a patent? What is stopping you from just using the technology anyway?
It's Intellectual Property, something similar to a patent. The developer kit is a learning module with flash videos to present their intellectual property and make it understandable. The fee is mainly for the right to USE. Developer licenses don't allow to sell the product commercially, but that wouldn't be the problem if someone had a working device ready to sell he could buy a commercial license.
JLN is only working with information he got off the internet, as far as i know he does not have access to the skdb, which does not contain relevant information at the moment anyway. The whole thing should start after the test data is released - or should i say if it is released.
I'm waiting for the data and its evaluation and then if people generally think the skdb stuff is worth the price, i won't spend money without knowing the risk.

Of course if someone builds a replication and uses it at home nobody will know that he does not have a license to use it.  ;) Again.. If..

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Re: Steorn Orbo
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2010, 16:36:57 pm »
Yea, so I don't get the developer thing, sounds like a money grab.

And based on what JLN shows, the technology isn't complicated at all, that being said, I don't know how practical it is, and if you can pull energy from it.

Your input is going to be the driving circuit that looks at position of the rotor with a sensor and then times the pulses to the toroid coils, and your output is going to be what ever you can pull off the rotation of the rotor without making it stop...
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Re: Steorn Orbo
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2010, 17:34:17 pm »
The developer license is for legal purposes. Also for membership to the SKDB which tells you how to build it.
As far as i understood Naudin did only the first demos from Steorn, who knows if his machine is "overunity". The energy is not gained by rotation but by placing a similar toroid coil in the exact height line with the other coils, so that while voltage is induced there is no back emf anywhere. The important thing is that if you have a rotor with magnets or not it does not matter because the energy for the input coils is the same (no back emf). And the current you can get from the rotating rotor magnets induction is also without a back emf.
It does not matter if the pick up (which is for getting energy out of it) coil is near the rotor or not for the input energy. So if you know that the magnetic flux drops off proportional to 1/r² the only parameter for energy gain is the distance.
The reason for that simple shorting in the demonstration is the form of the induced currents and the size of the model. Not enough power for a light bulb and current not straight and defined enough for powering the generator itself or a led. They said that in the demo. Of course they could have used a rectifying circuit and some more but that would only raise more doubts, wouldn't it?

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Re: Steorn Orbo
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2010, 17:38:22 pm »
Are you going to build one?
Check out the Flynn patents I posted in a new topic, there are 5 of them, and they make way more sense in a practical way than the orbo

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« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2010, 17:51:32 pm »
I'll probably try it. Of most free energy claims i have seen this are the most legitimate, although there are of course major flaws and unnecessarily long delays in supply with information on Steorns side. I'll definitely look into your Flynn documents.

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Re: Steorn Orbo
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2010, 18:53:46 pm »
Looks like JLN is ahead of Steorn in delivering data: http://jnaudin.free.fr/steorn/indexen.htm#Loading

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Re: Steorn Orbo
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2010, 14:36:46 pm »
holy crap i just got my magnets. i purchased 8mm and 10mm diameter magnets. i wondered why it was so well packed with paper and more. instantly after getting the small ones out of the package they were attracted to the other magnets. the little ones got broken not a minute after unpacking, because they flew against a spoon and dropped to the floor. additionally i hurt two of my fingers, i didn't think these neodymium iron boron magnets were SO strong.  :o bought at magnetportal.de - the strongest magnets of the world. i guess they really are.

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Re: Steorn Orbo
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2010, 14:42:15 pm »
I've broken a few of mine playing around too, they are fun.