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Re: The Ewok Method
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2010, 10:08:07 am »
the electric field will not travel through the plate, you can't overlap them

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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2010, 07:29:30 am »
i hope the field doesn't go through the plate. i hope the repulsion/attraction effect works as i theorise it will.
If your not following ask and i will elaborate.

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« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2010, 07:22:03 am »
I have been thinking over and over your statement of the electric field not traveling through the plate. While this, i'm sure, is an electronics given then why is it not implemented into our current set up and step down generators? Also from memory i believe that the plate absorbs the field? so if i have a field that can not arc to a charged plate then the electrons will be effected by the field (attract repulsed dependant on charge) much like magnetic fields. Just a physics thing i remember (i have been known to get these things wrong but it is only a proposed upgrade). There is nothing to update atm as i have been working some serious hours lately. Will try to fit some work in on the weekend.

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« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2010, 07:22:45 am »
Update,
Tried a few alterations to my cell construction and to the transformer. All i managed to do was burn out 3 bench top power supplies and short my hand wound transformer. No improvements on my HHO production.
As a note to others the electrical tape bought at hardware stores, though it says PVC, it has impurities in it. I estimate approx 5-15kv per MM before it breaks down. Don't count on it doing the 400KV per mm that PVC is meant to withstand. Mind you 5KV per mm is more than enough when your dealing with household electrics. So i guess its one of those design flaw acceptable losses...

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« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2010, 07:11:03 am »
This alone will not work, it has the desired effect, but there is follow on effects, eg arcing inbetween your plates. The HV has one of 2 effects, causes arcing in the reaction area i theorise that it causes the electron "jump" in the shortened gap between the gasses once they form, hence spark and no more reaction chamber. The second effect is nothing, the HV has a point where it is non-effective on the cell, i don't have the equipment to tell you the field strength but its around the 70kv mark.
 
This idea may be able to be used in an alternate way perhaps but not in this manner.

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« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2010, 15:10:36 pm »
Something keep sdrawing me back to this. Its rolling around and around and i came to this theory,
Stans didn't say anything cryptic. Infact he tells you simply things that are already known but explains them in a way that i think misleads everyone. His whole setup is a large HV tank circuit. His inductors are used to "pump" (for lack of a better word) the voltage up to the KV point of dielectric breakdown. Yes yes we covered this, then you have 2 overcharging plates that, at worst case, arc over and ignite your generated gas, WRONG!!! if the High Voltage is only obtainable in the circuit at "circuit resonance" (http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_6/2.html) then as the capacitance changes in the cell the frequency also has to change to match the point of resonance. Thus the applied voltage goes down, down, down and no over arcing. FANTASTIC ITS CRACKED!!! nope sorry, his true genius is his bottom variable inductor, i am guessing this is adjusted or is used to adjust the resonance point (the inductance could be used as a signal?!? to adjust the frequency up and down??? to match resonance) If figured out this could explain alot and make replication easy and adjustable to your own aplications. His frequency of 66khz would of been for his set up, matching the inductance to the capacitance to push the applied voltage on the cell acting as a capacitor, as the capacitance changes you need to adjust the frequency to match the new capacitance. His quote about letting the water "recover" could simply mean allowing the water to push the gas out to "reset" the capacitence. I put this forward as my theory on Stans meaning to his invention and how he explains it. All I need is a way to measure capacitance of my test cell. Find the value of used inductors, do the equation and blamo back to blowing up desktop power supplies.
 
Note to everyone wanting to know about the work electric fields do, listen to his lecture he points out some already known facts.
1. electric field increase the speed of moving electrons with-in the field.
2. electric fields have some magnetic properties (like fields repulse, opposites attract, fields can travel down some connected materials etc etc)
 
 
Now disect what i have said and tell me why i am wrong please!!!

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Re: The Ewok Method
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2010, 18:21:14 pm »
You are right Crazyewok,


I also think is about this. however not exactly the way you said. Stan used the electric field to break the water yes. But before this he used the electric field to generate enormous amounts of electrical energy.


By this i mean. Take for example 40kv at 1ma. If you could amplify this 1ma to 1 amp using only the fields, you would get 40kw of electrical power.


Than he ingeniously used also the heat of the ambient to run his engines. And made it in a very cleaver way using water to convert heat into expansion. 


Do you remember Thermal heat he talked about?


 I think that he made this to use voltage only to drive his transformer.


The spark gaps have a capacitor in parallel making of it two tank circuits tuned and coupled magnetically.


Than the diodes acts as switches allowing only the field to be applied, however as the reverse current of the diodes are quite small he made the electrons on the wire to move to the holes on the tank. The way i draw one tank is pushing and the other is pulling the electrons alternately on each cycle.


I'm very busy now studying for the university but within one month i want to build this and check my theory.


I'm saying that he din't used only h2 to run the engine probably just a little, but ambient thermal heat, expanded by the water incompressibility and heat capacity proprieties.


Important is water temperature to extract the energy.


Probably he created only hot steam using a dc "ions acceleration arc" under water. using the same principle that electric fields accelerates electrons. Some h2 is consequence however you get great deal of heat. I'm telling since long time that i was able with dc to boil 4 liters of water on 600w 200v... This is way less energy than is required using heat. 

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« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2011, 06:10:38 am »
Not where i was going Seb but something that maybe of note and looking into :)
 
Ok i have my parts and my meter (3rd one now, to anyone still reading don't have kids the term "no" means little).
 
now the math, I have looked through Stans notes/patents/videos etc etc. I have a project in the works now, 1 set of 2x SS316L tubes approx 4in that have a 1mm gap when one is inserted into the other. They have approx the same surface area on their facing sides. i will measure capacitance and resistance with only and air gap, then measure it again once it is submerged in water. Using these number I intend to create a LCR circuit at resonance. utilizing the numbers and adjusting the frequency according to estimated changes while production is happening to attempt to maintain resonance. If this shows promise i will attempt to do the math to increase the efficientcy of this method.
As per usual i will post any findings.