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Re: Working resonance circuit
« Reply #56 on: December 21, 2009, 15:41:22 pm »
Man draw it yourself

Follow my words secondary connected to a choke, choke connected to two tubes cell configuration with back to back diode, than connected to Ammeter and than connected the capacitor and again on the secondary. It like stan drawing but on the place of the diode you use the two tubes cell.
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« Reply #57 on: December 21, 2009, 16:04:36 pm »
Have you seeing this?

Some say that this is hygienic paper and that stan found the solution when he was at his bathroom, what he had is his bath room that lead him to discover it? think about don't ask me

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« Reply #58 on: December 21, 2009, 16:15:29 pm »
i havent ever seen them pics.. thanks for sharing

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« Reply #59 on: December 21, 2009, 16:45:49 pm »
Man draw it yourself

Follow my words secondary connected to a choke, choke connected to two tubes cell configuration with back to back diode, than connected to Ammeter and than connected the capacitor and again on the secondary. It like stan drawing but on the place of the diode you use the two tubes cell.
That description and the tissue-paper-picture would be series resonance, not parallel. To understand where there could possibly be parallel resonance i have asked you to draw it. If i could do it myself i would have done it. i'm sorry if you understood that i am simply to lazy to do it myself.

i'll do it myself and you could tell me if that's what you were talking about or not, if that's easier.

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Re: Working resonance circuit
« Reply #60 on: December 21, 2009, 17:00:52 pm »
Exactly that!

Yes you understood well sorry if i said parallel the way i proposed because in any way the current will recirculate it will be a tank circuit with the energy source in series. You could do also with energy source in parallel too the way i proposed first witch was the vic meyer proposed.  I differentiated explaining that tank circuit definition because there is also the series resonance witch go from positive to ground and finish there without possibility of recirculation of the current.

I just said for you to try yourself because you will fell much better when you reach the objective and because is very important to read and understand, the way i described is very simple isn't it?

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« Reply #61 on: December 21, 2009, 17:34:01 pm »
okay thanks sebosfato.
well we all know that stan meyers vic circuit is nearly identical to this: http://www.richieburnett.co.uk/dcreschg.html (second with de-q-ing diode) where a tank capacitor is charged. the spark gap functions similar to a pulsed source voltage right?
There is one way i could see current recirculating in the tank cap only, that is when you see the tubes as a very leaky capacitor (that's what it is right?).
The equivalent circuit of that would be a cap with a resistor (our leakage/electrolysis) in parallel. so the cap is charged to twice the input voltage and loses all the charge as current through itself (electrolysis).

or simply the fact that in your circuit current goes unidirectional through the resistors?

edit: nevermind, i think i got it now.
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Re: Working resonance circuit
« Reply #62 on: December 21, 2009, 18:00:11 pm »
Yes because meyer said you could use sea water.

the Richies site when he talk about the de-q-ing diode is different thing because the charging choke he meant is only an impedance matching thing, instead meyer used the chokes on the same transformer making it to become a charge pump, to be used as energy source in parallel configuration thats all the confusion he Stan created to confuse people. i say charge pump because it will pump electrons in the tank. I can say this because in an experiment i charged a normal capacitor with the diode before the choke and after the choke and i saw that the voltage the capacitor was able to build up was much higher the way meyer said. Is a kind of very high impedance output.  The choke in the same transformer ok this is the voltage intensifier circuit witch has thin secondary and was connected in parallel with a resonant tank.

I don't use any spark gaps on the circuit IS just for safety limiting the max voltage in case of a circuit error avoiding components to be destructed.

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Re: Working resonance circuit
« Reply #63 on: December 21, 2009, 19:30:23 pm »
Have you seeing this?

Some say that this is hygienic paper and that Stan found the solution when he was at his bathroom, what he had is his bath room that lead him to discover it? think about don't ask me

I believed this drawing was made at a cafe by Mr Meyer and given to a journalist or a friend.I clearly remember i found it on a web page with that kind of explanation, and posted it here a year ago :

http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,665.msg7182.html#msg7182

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